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#1061 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 11:08 PM

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#1062 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 11:11 PM

Tom Davidoff, executive director of UBC Sauder School of Business’s Centre for Urban Economics and Real Estate who helped develop the metrics used to pick the 10 municipalities, said smaller municipalities like West Van, Saanich and Oak Bay “stick out like a sore thumb (because) they’re expensive, they’re almost all single-family homes and where the land is most valuable.   So that’s where you should have more multi-family homes.

 

 

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So let me get this straight.  What you should do is take the absolute most desirable neighbourhoods, and cram them full of apartments.  What is the upside, again?

 

And why should you put multi-family homes where the land is most valuable?  

 

 

 

 

 

The province hasn’t yet set the actual housing targets. Kahlon said that when they’re released later this summer they will include not only the number of units, but also the type, including townhomes, condos, single-family homes and below-market housing.

 

However, Davidoff dispelled notions that creating more housing supply will bring down real estate prices.

 

“We’re not going to see affordability. That’s not what’s on the menu here. It’s that things get worse more slowly. The right question is: ‘What would Vancouver look like if it hadn’t built as many homes?’ ”

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems to me there is some very fuzzy logic here.


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#1063 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 11:15 PM

Kahlon said that when they’re released later this summer they will include not only the number of units, but also the type, including townhomes, condos, single-family homes and below-market housing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, I can hardly wait to see what Oak Bay is deemed to get and how they will make those units appear somehow.  This whole plan is very strange.

 

 

 

 

 

Last year (2021), 100,000 people moved to B.C. – a new record, according to the province. B.C. saw its highest level of net inter- national immigration since it started keeping records in the early 1950s, according to Statistics Canada data, and interprovincial in-migration hit a six-year peak. The flow of people from other provinces was at its second-highest level since the early 1990s, when, for four consecutive years, approximately 40,000 people moved to the province from other parts of Canada.

 

https://biv.com/arti...pulation-growth

 

 

 

 

 

 

So we are getting 100,000 new people per year, and what is Oak Bay expected to take?  250 more per year?  Why is BC importing 100,000 people per year when 25% of us have no doctor?


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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:18 AM

It’s not fuzzy logic, it’s doublespeak. This is colonization. You destroy what’s here and replace it with something else.

#1065 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:27 AM

I guess Uplands could use more apartments.
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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:30 AM

How about your house. Maybe YOU should go on a list. What is YOUR living footprint? What are YOU doing to control the temperature to within 1.5 degrees?

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:41 AM

We can only control the climate to within 1.5 degrees if everyone does what the Davos class says.

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#1068 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:42 AM

How about your house. Maybe YOU should go on a list. What is YOUR living footprint? What are YOU doing to control the temperature to within 1.5 degrees?

I’m running my water tap 24/7 through an old car radiator and I think that cools my place by about 1.7 degrees.

Am I doing this right?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 June 2023 - 06:43 AM.

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#1069 Mike K.

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:57 AM

You need to have a fan blowing across the radiator to keep it cool. I recommend having one of those small Honda generators to power the fan.
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Posted 03 June 2023 - 07:01 AM

That they have actually gotten our mayors to sign a pledge that they will do everything in their power to control the global temperature from changing to within 1.5 degrees when they can’t even fix the potholes is the ultimate troll.

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 07:34 AM

Does this read like sanity to anyone?

“ Increasing public health leadership that centres on decolonization, justice, and equity

While the experts expressed serious concerns about the limited role and current contributions of public health systems in relation to climate change in Canada, there was substantial enthusiasm, passion, energy, and desire to see public health take on climate action leadership roles with a strong focus on justice, decolonization, and equity. Notably, experts said there is no singular approach to climate change. For that reason, public health ought to engage with diverse knowledges and perspectives in all adaptation and mitigation interventions. Several experts raised the point that public health must not only appreciate the wealth of Indigenous knowledges in understanding and addressing climate change but find ways to strengthen relationships with First Nations, Inuit, and Métis leadership, from the local to the provincial, territorial and national levels.”

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 07:45 AM

#clownworld utter nonsense edition


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#1073 dasmo

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 07:49 AM

Ya… and “Public Health” was in charge from 2020-2022. How did that go for us?

#1074 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 05:09 AM

View Royal mayor calls for six-month pause on new development

 

The move comes as View Royal lands on the province’s list of 47 communities that have to do more to increase housing
 
 
 

 

View Royal Mayor Sid Tobias is proposing a pause on all new developments for six months — just as the town lands on the province’s list of 47 communities that have to do more to increase housing.

 

Tobias said View Royal needs to evaluate its housing stock and consult residents about the future of the community before the province forces its hand.

 

“I just don’t think community planning should be a rush job,” Tobias said Monday. “I think we should take a breath here and see what we really need.”

 

Tobias is taking a motion to View Royal council tonight asking for the six-month moratorium, citing the need to review the town’s growth strategy and Official Community Plan in light of the province’s new housing legislation.

 

“It’s not that we’re against development,” said Tobias. “We just want to make sure it’s the right development for the community.”

 

Under the mayor’s motion, only complete new development applications would be considered — anything new to View Royal would have to wait.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 06 June 2023 - 09:12 PM

‘Utterly irresponsible’: View Royal mayor faces criticism for motion to pause new development

 

Sid Tobias said the move is to buy time, but the idea is facing criticism

 

 

https://www.vicnews....ew-development/

 

 

 

 

He said there is certainly a need to build more housing, but he feels View Royal is already doing that with three large developments under construction now totalling 354 rental and 92 strata units, plus another four developments totalling 435 units with approved development permits. But he is concerned the province’s approach is simply encouraging building for the sake of building, without considering a community’s other needs, and the impact more building will have on infrastructure.



#1076 Mike K.

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Posted 07 June 2023 - 05:58 AM

It’s not new development, it’s a rezoning application pause.

View Royal is a housing rock star, though. They got a lot accomplished under mayor Screech.

If Oak Bay can do nothing for decades, View Royal can take a six month break from considering new rezonings.
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#1077 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 07 June 2023 - 06:00 AM

Taking a 6 month break probably makes sense. Wait to see what the province dictates. Why get out ahead of that?

Nobody know what actually happened with the vote last night?

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#1078 Mike K.

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Posted 09 June 2023 - 04:21 PM

^the motion failed, 3-3 vote, one councillor was absent.

Poilievre has announced he will be punishing big city municipalities that don’t increase housing permits by 15%, by withholding federal dollars.

“I’m going to require cities build more homes, or they’re going to lose federal infrastructure money. The more they build, the more money they will get.”

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#1079 Mike K.

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Posted 13 June 2023 - 05:36 PM

I know this group is trying, and that they’re working to be their best at this. But you cannot falsify or cherry-pick data to suit a message.

Council actually approved:

Bowker Collection: 43 units
Clive: 17 (on site with 8; net 9)
713 St. Patrick: 9

And that’s jus the multi-unit developments. There have been several subdivisions.

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 06:55 AM

You’ll note way, way down in the article, that “farmland” and productive farmland are two different things, and productive farmland is increasing.

And we can all guess, I’m sure, what the reason is for “farmland” disappearing.

And we know the gig is up when Benezet shows up 🥳

https://www.cbc.ca/n...mland-1.6877661

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