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#781 RFS

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:27 PM

It's easy to lower the unemployment rate when you give corporations virtual carte blanche in doing business. When you don't have to bother with those pesky environmental assessments, wildlife protection, employment standards and consumer safeguards, it shouldn't be too tough to have strong numbers. But there is more to it than just the number of people looking for work.


Easy to say when you're safely employed. Unemployment causes families to fall apart, drug addiction, suicides, reduced life expectancy, and general sadness and indignity

#782 spanky123

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 04:51 PM

^ Having folks unemployed is not a big deal. All we need to do is provide everyone a guaranteed minimum income and they will be fine!

 

Shame on the US for focusing on the economy, wage growth and employment. 


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#783 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 04:59 PM

an article from macleans that gets everything wrong about economics and markets and systems.

 

why does the left feel so entitled to money they never earned?

 

https://www.macleans...capitalism-now/

 

But the truth of the matter is this: 58 per cent of Canadians have a favourable view of socialism, and 77 per cent of us believe the world is facing a climate emergency. Most Canadians find income inequality to be fundamentally un-Canadian, and there are, numerically, more of us than there are bankers, landlords, brokers and executives put together. The only way for the left to win this fight is for its political vision to expand beyond capitalism, and to capture the widespread desire to move on from its exploitative limits.

 

We’ve lived in that world for long enough. Time for it to end.

 


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#784 Mike K.

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 05:16 PM

Of course, the irony is millions of Canadians moved to Canada over the generations to escape the hellish realities of socialist countries.

Whatever. The media amplifies these talking points because they’re in vogue. This is just the latest round of sensationalism (capitalism is bad; socialism is good).
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#785 Jason-L

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 10:45 PM

Of course, the irony is millions of Canadians moved to Canada over the generations to escape the hellish realities of socialist countries.

Whatever. The media amplifies these talking points because they’re in vogue. This is just the latest round of sensationalism (capitalism is bad; socialism is good).

Of course, the irony is millions of Canadians moved to Canada over the generations to escape the hellish realities of socialist  totalitarian/authoritarian countries.

 

Fixed that for you.


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#786 Mike K.

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 06:14 AM

Yes, that too.

Lots of places were and are awful, namely because the society was strangled by socialism/communism, and in some cases authoritarianism sprinkled in for good measure.

It’s easy to live in Canada where one of the world’s most productive capitalist societies provides you with all the freedoms and opportunities, and espouse the virtues of something you know absolutely nothing about but think is superior, because, you know, capitalism sux!!
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#787 JohnN

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 06:47 AM

an article from macleans that gets everything wrong about economics and markets and systems.

 

why does the left feel so entitled to money they never earned?

 

https://www.macleans...capitalism-now/

Domise mentions "communist" once and "socialism" once because he is pretty well aware that while Canadians may laud decreased inequality, they're quite okay with the mixed market model Canada has: socialism-lite+capitalism-heavy. Its a model that operates with more or less efficiency in much of the world. Interesting that Domise has had some legal problems a few years ago, getting a conditional discharge from assaulting a woman three times: https://www.thestar....-withdrawn.html


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#788 spanky123

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:10 AM

^ Ironic that if you are an athlete or actor and assault a woman your career is over, yet if you are a socialist then bah. 



#789 Mike K.

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:32 AM

He’s just misunderstood and is himself a victim. Probably had a traumatic exam score in university, or read Cenk’s guide to dating.

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#790 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 05:25 AM

Following a years that saw critics of the chamber question its relevance in the community, 2019 saw the business organization begin to raise its profile with a series of initiatives.

 

It hosted business strategy seminars, launched a social media contest, and co-hosted the 2019 federal election all-candidates meeting.

 

The chamber is also seeking the return of $28,000 in municipal funding it gave up in 2016, without any expectation of the economic development responsibilities that was earmarked with the original funding.

 

“It wasn’t reasonable,” Mason said.

 

“Economic development is a whole career set — a six-figure-a-year job. There was no way that a group of volunteers at the chamber, without experience in economic development, could or should have been expected to pull it off.”

 

The funding request is still before district council.

 

Mason said a properly funded chamber of commerce will help to turn the corner for Sooke businesses.

 

 

https://www.vicnews....-new-president/

 

i'm not sure how relevant a sooke chamber is but i do know they should be independant of government - and government support.  

they should be selling memberships to raise operating funds.  period.  if they can not raise enough money from memberships then they are too small to be a real entity.


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#791 JohnN

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 05:56 AM

 

Following a years that saw critics of the chamber question its relevance in the community, 2019 saw the business organization begin to raise its profile with a series of initiatives.

 

It hosted business strategy seminars, launched a social media contest, and co-hosted the 2019 federal election all-candidates meeting.

 

The chamber is also seeking the return of $28,000 in municipal funding it gave up in 2016, without any expectation of the economic development responsibilities that was earmarked with the original funding.

 

“It wasn’t reasonable,” Mason said.

 

“Economic development is a whole career set — a six-figure-a-year job. There was no way that a group of volunteers at the chamber, without experience in economic development, could or should have been expected to pull it off.”

 

The funding request is still before district council.

 

Mason said a properly funded chamber of commerce will help to turn the corner for Sooke businesses.

 

 

https://www.vicnews....-new-president/

 

i'm not sure how relevant a sooke chamber is but i do know they should be independant of government - and government support.  

they should be selling memberships to raise operating funds.  period.  if they can not raise enough money from memberships then they are too small to be a real entity.

 

Would be hard to match the relentless business boosterism of Victoria Chamber's Brian Small who died in January: https://www.timescol...ions-1.24067829


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#792 Mike K.

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 06:26 AM

Isn’t the whole point for a chamber to be comprised of individuals with experience in economic development? That’s just a fancy word for running a successful business.

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#793 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 06:32 AM

launching a social media contest does not seem to me a large accomplishment.

#794 Mike K.

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 07:10 AM

Nor does hosting an all-candidates meeting.

Sooke’s chamber initiatives should be under the West Shore chamber umbrella.

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