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[Matt R.]

Never once had a sales rep contact for me for restaurant or retail sales.

It’s tough out there. The impacts of the bc ndp and federal liberal governments on small business cannot be overstated.

Edit: I imagine the impacts on medium and large business is just as bad but they maybe have more runway to burn.

Edited by Matt R., 10 January 2024 - 07:37 PM.

[lanforod]

That said, the small craft beer market seems saturated too.

[Matt R.]

Absolutely. It’s actually difficult to decide which packaged beers to stock.

[AllseeingEye]

 

Moon Under Water Brewpub and Distillery has been producing its product on Bay Street in Victoria for 12 years.

 

“When we started, we were the 50th brewery in the province. Now there are 240,” says owner Clay Potter. “We all got out of COVID hoping to recover and see a big boom. A lot of breweries went into debt to stay afloat and keep their staff. We got out, and the economy and the market just hasn’t kicked back yet.”

 

Potter says there’s a shift in consumer habits.

 

“Young drinkers just aren’t drinking beer,” he says. “Boomers loved beer, but in many cases, that generation has been told by their doctors to cut back.”

 

In response, Moon Under Water has gone big on non-alcoholic beer. The Dry Side of the Moon is their most popular “near-beer,” and Potter’s walk-in cooler is stocked to the ceiling with flats of their popular product.

 

“Non-alcoholic beer sales are up 2000% from a couple of years ago,” he says.

 

 

 

 

https://www.cheknews...island-1179317/

 

 

Or to simply stop drinking altogether; my GP was a typical doctor way back in the day but told me he hasn't touched booze in over 25 years now. The number of people I know today who don't imbibe - at all - not only exceeds the number who do, but does so by a wide margin.

 

I started 'cutting (way) back' before I was 50. By 55 I was literally down to a couple of drinks annually, a very cold beer on a very hot day being about the only scenario that would tempt me. I can't even tell you what decade I last had a glass of wine and my last mixed drink was easily 5+ years ago. And I haven't had any drinks in over three years now, cold beers included. Not missed either.

 

Medical research today understands far more about the actual adverse effects of alcohol on the body than it did even 10-15 years ago. At the very top of the list are a host of cancers including prostate, throat, esophageal and one of the very worst of them all, pancreatic, where alcohol plays a major role. No thanks to all of them.

 

So for whatever their own personal reason(s) I say good on the younger generation(s) coming up for cutting back and/or increasingly turning exclusively to the non-alcoholic products.

[Mike K.]

Yes, the impacts from alcohol are not good.

I’ve been harping on about this subject for some time. Victoria in particular has too much of a booze scene that it just can’t shake.

[Victoria Watcher]

'Beer tax' increase capped at 2 per cent until 2026, Freeland announces

The alcohol excise tax was set to increase on April 1 by 4.7%, tied to inflation

https://www.cbc.ca/n...years-1.7139374

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 March 2024 - 01:38 PM.

[Mike K.]

The carbon taxes already factored into the price of alcohol and their upcoming rise will more than make up that revenue, let us not worry.

[Matt R.]

That tax was mere pennies per package. Thanks, feds!

[Daveyboy]

So shameless and self serving for the Libs.  Just like their "no carbon tax on home heating oil" primarily benefitting the maritimes.  All about squeaking a few more votes.  They must think we are really dumb....actually a lot of us are!

[Nparker]

...hey must think we are really dumb....actually a lot of us are!

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

― George Carlin

[Mike K.]

50% of us are below-average intelligence.

[Victoria Watcher]

Florida brewery faces backlash for its 'Epi Pen' peanut-flavoured beer

Advocates say making light of allergies isn't funny — it's dangerous

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-beer-1.7161997


Research shows that making fun of any medical condition is dangerous because it diminishes its perceived seriousness, Gerdt said. And the allergy community relies on having an informed community to support navigating safe food choices and avoid having potentially life-threatening reactions.

"Sometimes people will say, 'Can't you take a joke?' I get it, but when you look at the broader implications around the community taking it less seriously, that is counter to what the community needs."

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 April 2024 - 12:54 PM.

[Nparker]

"Allergy community"? Is this a protected class now? Will the brewery be charged with a hate crime?

[Matt R.]

Yes, medical conditions and disabilities are protected.

[Victoria Watcher]

Protected from jokes though?

MASH and ER had lots of jokes.

[Nparker]

#clownworld - no sense of humour edition

[Matt R.]

Protected from jokes though?

MASH and ER had lots of jokes.

Soon enough!

[Matt R.]

I’m a little sensitive as the parent of a child with a life threatening food allergy. It’s just not funny. You go ahead though.

[Tony]

Often so hard for some to understand when they are not wearing the shoes of someone else when they joke around or make light on a subject or issue,

 

You can still have fun without crushing someone else. I also have family with epi pen concerns.

 

Not an attempt to squash free speech but to increase awareness that words matter. 

 

Where and how does each individual know where the line is or is there some line?

 

If there are lines does the line change as society changes?

[Matt R.]

I struggle to see the upside for a marketing campaign like this, it just feels like punching down.

Not that I have access to it anyways, but as a retail purchaser I would avoid this entire brand and anyone associated with it for all time. All fine and well, as long as on the other side people are buying it *because* they think it’s funny but I don’t think that’s the case. Hurts them more than it helps.

But it’s Floriduh, after all…