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#241 Rob Randall

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 10:33 AM

And I guess the other problem was how do you pay for it all. Some online communities assumed local businesses would sponsor each area. I believe the goal for VirualTown was for example there would be a financial building where you could share investment tips and it would be sponsored by a local bank or what have you.

 

Other sites tried to surround the content with small ads and banners.

 

The companies that made billions took that further when they realized the content users were posting was filled with personal data that could be harvested and monetized by selling it to third parties to be used in targeted advertising.


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#242 Rob Randall

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 10:52 AM

And to circle back to the main topic, newspapers were watching all this completely baffled and helpless as their precious content was spun off to the web to be shared for "free".

 

Look at a 1950s newspaper and take note of how much of the paper's content beyond news, weather and sports is what we would call today "social media". 


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#243 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 10:56 AM

And to circle back to the main topic, newspapers were watching all this completely baffled and helpless as their precious content was spun off to the web to be shared for "free".

 

but there has always been free newspapers.  around here in the 70's we had the victorian.  then we had monday magazine then the black press papers in the 80's.  somewhere in there we had the pennysaver.  today we have coffee news and snapped.


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#244 Matt R.

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 11:22 AM

Back in the very early 90’s we ran a chat system called STS-07. At the peak I think we had 16 lines running on a 386, maybe a 486. Subscription based, but certainly no way to make money. We had fun with it, of course, made some lifelong friends and we were able to “link” with other STS systems around North America over long distance, but we ended up mostly using Datapac. Lol!

Text based, real time, I don’t think there were any forums at all, at least not that we paid for.

Around this time the WWW was starting up, Island Net started offering dial up service and more feature rich BBS software supplanted the text based offerings.

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#245 Rob Randall

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 11:27 AM

Ha, Coffee News will outlast the cockroaches.

 

It's amazing how many advertising dollars were spread around in the 70s among so many options.

 

The elephant was the Times and Colonist. But the Victorian was competitive because they could boast better penetration using the model Black Press uses today: twice a week delivery to every address. The paid papers could say they had better quality, more loyal readers.

 

The Victoria Star briefly existed in the era between The Victorian and Black Press. I think the Star's benefactor was its association with the Real Estate Victoria listings. Every paper needed an angle to survive. 


Edited by Rob Randall, 04 February 2020 - 11:28 AM.

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#246 Bernard

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 02:06 PM

And to circle back to the main topic, newspapers were watching all this completely baffled and helpless as their precious content was spun off to the web to be shared for "free".

 

Look at a 1950s newspaper and take note of how much of the paper's content beyond news, weather and sports is what we would call today "social media". 

I would add to this the two local TV stations.   There is no reason they could not be pumping out cheap new content that could be streamed online.   They have the studio space, the equipment, and staff with knowledge but can not seem to figure out that you can make money by producing basic content and putting it online.


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#247 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 March 2020 - 11:57 AM

Atlantic Canada's largest newspaper chain is temporarily laying off 40 per cent of its staff and shutting down its weekly publications amid the loss of advertising revenue due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

SaltWire Network operates 35 weeklies and dailies in Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, P.E.I. and New Brunswick, including the Halifax Chronicle Herald and the St. John's Telegram.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...id-19-1.5508396


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#248 VIResident

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Posted 28 March 2020 - 12:48 PM

Our media is on the brink of mass failure

 

“.....Ottawa must understand that we are staring down the end of Canadian private media as we know it. With few exceptions, we’re talking about the extinction of the entire Canadian media industry. No democracy can survive without a functioning press.” - The Star. https://www.thestar....scqJyRiFYJOkPMA


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#249 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 28 March 2020 - 12:52 PM

^ some solution he proposed:

 

 

 

Ottawa needs to start by doubling the budget of the CBC, to finance a major expansion of its national, regional, and local news capacity with a mandate to freely share its news content with any media outlet that wants to use it. To maintain CBC’s vital independence, the government must also give the CBC board of directors the exclusive authority to hire and fire the corporation’s president, currently a prime ministerial prerogative.

 

 

yes that's what we want, cbc doing all the news-gathering and then it appearing everywhere else.  we don't need more star and cbc.  


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#250 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 March 2020 - 08:59 AM

New today:

announced unpaid newsroom furloughs of 1 week per month during April, May and June. We’re told journalists earning more than $38K are subject to the plan. This is prompted by COVID-19



#251 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 March 2020 - 11:35 AM

National print association PrintNZ says it was “caught by surprise” on Friday when the New Zealand government announced that under new COVID-19 measures only major daily newspapers were considered essential services and that “all other printed newspaper and magazine production was to cease immediately.” 

 

 

https://www.wideform...-magazines.html


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#252 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 April 2020 - 07:24 AM

News Corp, the Rupert Murdoch-controlled publishing group, will suspend the print editions of 60 newspapers in Australia as the spread of coronavirus causes a rapid decline in media advertising.  The decision on Wednesday by Australia’s biggest media company followed similar moves by publishing groups in the US and UK, where local advertising spending has been hit by the collapse of businesses in sectors such as hospitality and retail.

 

 

https://www.ft.com/c...d9-4375db79730b


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#253 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 02:01 PM

https://infotel.ca/n...ditions/it71939

 

 

 

The COVID-19 pandemic has cost the print editions of two South Okanagan newspapers.

 

The Oliver Chronicle and the Osoyoos Times have suspended their print editions until further notice. Aberdeen publishing, owner of the two papers, printed final editions Thursday.

 

Oliver Chronicle editor Lyonel Doherty said today, April 3, the company’s Peachland View will continue with its print edition.

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#254 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 02:01 PM

The Canadian Jewish News (CJN) has served Canada’s Jewish community for 60 years, but it could not survive the economic downturn brought on by the coronavirus pandemic.

The National Post has learned that the CJN will cease its print and web operations after publishing its April 9 edition. Its president, Elizabeth Wolfe, said an official announcement will be made on its website before that time.

 

 

https://nationalpost...ease-operations



#255 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 05:08 PM

Looks as though glaciers Vancouver courier is done for now.


Regrettably, the Vancouver Courier will be suspending publication until further notice.
The small, independent businesses in our community that are under economic pressure to shut their doors or reduce services are the same ones that have supported our coverage and made it possible to deliver free, local news to you. Their significant drop in advertising revenue for our publication and lack of quick, available government funding means that we have been forced to make the difficult decision to cease both print and online coverage.

https://www.vancouri...tion-1.24111463

#256 Mike K.

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 05:25 PM

Damn, hey. That’s crazy.

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