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#501 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 05:33 AM

i would not even be so critical if we had cut back funding over 120 days.  but we will pay the same amount as usual in taxes to support almost no service.


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#502 Rob Randall

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 06:06 AM

The library is a relatively small portion of our tax bill and most of its expenses are salaries and content acquisition which presumably has continued so I don't know where you think you'd see notable cost savings.


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#503 Mike K.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 06:18 AM

There’ll be a loss in revenues with three months of no late fees.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 07:36 AM

I spoke with some of my former library colleagues last week. The logistics are huge and as there are only so many people allowed in the building at once, it's been quite a large task. Those that were called back to work were very happy, and those that weren't can't wait but only limited staff can work at any given time. There was a lot of stuff to be moved in preparation including a lot of computer terminals, which had to be set up in other locations.


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Posted 29 June 2020 - 07:45 AM

in the private sector stores have been open for weeks - or never closed 

All stores I've been to since things started shutting down have "no returns" policy. Unless the library is going to just lend stuff out indefinitely they aren't really comparable to retail. 


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#506 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 07:59 AM

All stores I've been to since things started shutting down have "no returns" policy. Unless the library is going to just lend stuff out indefinitely they aren't really comparable to retail. 

 

well i think that a quarantine was easily imposed on returned materials.  it's not like food (store) items that might be perishable.  and it's not like the library is short of storage space.


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#507 Taj

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 11:36 AM

well i think that a quarantine was easily imposed on returned materials.  it's not like food (store) items that might be perishable.  and it's not like the library is short of storage space.

They will have to manage the return of items gradually - a trickle, rather than a flood.  I know people involved in the library system, and there are over 100,000 items currently checked out.  If all of those items were returned in a short amount of time, they would find themselves running out of space very quickly, particularly when one considers that they have to quarantine the returns and prep books for pickup.  

 

During normal times, there is a fairly steady flow of material in and out, so it balances.  The balance has been thrown off.  They will certainly be short on space.


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#508 Midnightly

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 08:53 PM

i do think there also needs to be a consideration of how complex our library system is, with 12 branches serving the crd, books circulate through all the branches (returned at any branch then has to get transferred back to it's home branch or sent to a branch for pick up)  it's very much a moving network some libraries do offer more space to allow books to quarantine before going back into circulation and some don't and i can easily see the system being overwhelmed.. this is also a huge learning curve for the staff to adjust to


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#509 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 01:53 AM

i do think there also needs to be a consideration of how complex our library system is, with 12 branches serving the crd, books circulate through all the branches (returned at any branch then has to get transferred back to it's home branch or sent to a branch for pick up)  it's very much a moving network some libraries do offer more space to allow books to quarantine before going back into circulation and some don't and i can easily see the system being overwhelmed.. this is also a huge learning curve for the staff to adjust to

 

i'm not asking for all services to come back or be near normal.  but it's been nearly 120 days and they is barely any level of service.  or signs of what they have been doing to get ready for more service. 

 

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 08:57 AM

I think it's important to remember that not all preparations for return-to-service are visible to the public.  I work in a library system, albeit not the GVPL one, and we have been working extremely hard behind the scenes to get things in place.  There are a lot of WorkSafe conditions that need to be met, and everything from increased signage to brand-new workflows for staff need to be established, essentially from scratch.  It has been quite overwhelming.   


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#511 mbjj

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 03:01 PM

The number of touch points in a library is huge. I know after only a couple of hours of work, my hands were black from everyone else's grime.



#512 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 03:08 PM

but no worse than a transit service. that never closed or reduced service.

i’m not trying to be down on the library system more than anywhere else.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 June 2020 - 03:10 PM.


#513 Nparker

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 03:39 PM

but no worse than a transit service. that never closed or reduced service...

How many parts of the transit service do people take home with them to contaminate then bring back to contaminate others? Libraries have been closed to protect their patrons, but also to protect staff. It's not possible to isolate library employees in the same manner as bus drivers. Making sure each library facility is clean for patrons and staff is also a great deal different than cleaning a bus. I am not sure this analogy works too well.


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#514 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

I’m talking about touch points. far more on transit than a digital-order-only library.

I understand. everyone wants to criticize me for being a bit tough on libraries. I still think most of the criticism is valid.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 June 2020 - 03:47 PM.


 



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