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[Mike K.]

Cash on a bus equals an excellent robbery opportunity.

Not everyone is traveling a short distance. Lots of people are going from Victoria to Alberta by bus and that costs more than what most people will carry in their pocket. I also have a feeling that the kiosk acts as a form of passenger interview. Nobody wants a crazy guy on their bus for 10 hours and the kiosk might actually keep certain individuals from even getting on the bus.

[VicHockeyFan]

Well, cash accepted on the bus would be another way, sure.

There are still folks who don't have/use the Internet. Perhaps you don't have time, last minute trip, and don't have a smart phone as well... etc.

 

If this option is required you just set it up with a retailer that can print you a ticket you pay for by cash.  Honestly, it's not like our bus station is the connecting centre for 15 different routes, and people are laying over for 4 hours.  Our bus terminal is the end of the road, and it's just a glorified parking/drop/wait lot that has no real use.

[Mike K.]

I guess that's why it's as small and insignificant as it is.

[VicHockeyFan]

Nobody wants a crazy guy on their bus for 10 hours and the kiosk might actually keep certain individuals from even getting on the bus.

 

Obviously that did not work in Manitoba.

 

Oh, hey, look at this...

 

http://news.national...ommits-suicide/

 

Six years after Vince Li beheaded a Greyhound passenger, another death: Mountie at the scene commits suicide

 

The 51-year-old member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is among 13 first responders who have killed themselves in the past 10 weeks, says the Tema Conter Memorial Trust, a group working to end the stigma of PTSD.

 

“He was the 11th, but we have had two additional [suicides] overnight and the number’s up to 13 now,” said Vince Savoia, the trust’s spokesman.

 

 

Hey, I though the media didn't report suicide, it's supposed to be the last taboo.

[HB]

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Edited by HB, 19 November 2014 - 05:59 PM.

[VicHockeyFan]

I didnt know Bosa owne the Bus Terminal .

 

When did this happens.

As far as I ever knew it was part of the CPR properties like the CG

 

Did teh Empress Hotel sell it to Bosa and if so did they sell the lot it sits on or just the building

 

The property has always been owed by the Empress, and leased out.  And Bosa bought the Empress, and the terminal came with the deal.

[HB]

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Edited by HB, 19 November 2014 - 05:59 PM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Same family, different brother than the one building here (Promontory).

[VicHockeyFan]

PCL has received approval to drop their Vic-Van route down to as little as 3 trips each way in off-peak season.

[VicHockeyFan]

http://www.timescolo...-home-1.1616676

 

Options are being examined now that the bus lines have been given 18 months’ notice to move out of 700 Douglas St.

 

“We want to see [people] dropped off in the downtown core,” said Frank Bourree, board chairman of the Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce and a tourism consultant. “However, they don’t need a big bus depot, really. You could drop off passengers on the sidewalk downtown somewhere.”

 

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Losing the bus depot is not a dramatic blow, since the property could be better used, Bourree said.

 

But, he said, the drop-off for passengers needs to be located south of Johnson Street and as close to the harbour as possible.

 

The depot serves passengers travelling to and from Vancouver and Whistler via Pacific Coach, as well as those taking sightseeing tours and heading to the airport. Greyhound buses travel from the depot as far north as Port Hardy.

 

The bus depot opened in 1961, relocating from 814 Wharf St.

 

John Wilson, owner of Wilson’s Transportation Ltd., which leases space at the current depot and operates Grey Line Sightseeing double-decker buses and an airport service, favours a much smaller location downtown.

 

A downtown storefront for tickets and parcels, a small waiting area and curbside pickup and drop-off area for passengers are all that’s required, Wilson said, adding buses would be there for only five to 15 minutes. “It doesn’t have to be a stand-alone building.”

 

 

 

I agree with Wilson and Bouree, the drop should still be downtown.  I think Helps is wrong.  Buses do not need to hang out there for long periods.

[concorde]

^I agree as well.  How long do the Vancouver-Victoria buses park before they have to depart going back to the mainland?  With the reduced schedules it could be awhile

[Rob Randall]

I forgot the need for parcel storage. I've used that service before. And isn't there need for administration of some sort? What is the second storey used for? Or is it all done out by Glanford?

 

It's very interesting that people are talking about the requirements being so minimal. It was not even ten years ago the depot was planned for Rock Bay next to Sports Traders and that design was much larger than the present one both in building size and parking area. At the time many including the DRA were opposed and this tells me we were right--that we prevented the construction of a useless white elephant.

[Jill]

I've received many parcels via Greyhound, and they always come to Glanford (to my irritation; the downtown building would be more convenient for me).

[VicHockeyFan]

^I agree as well.  How long do the Vancouver-Victoria buses park before they have to depart going back to the mainland?  With the reduced schedules it could be awhile

 

Well, they could park elsewhere.  Like Ogden Point.

[VicHockeyFan]

I forgot the need for parcel storage. I've used that service before. And isn't there need for administration of some sort? What is the second storey used for? Or is it all done out by Glanford?

 

It's very interesting that people are talking about the requirements being so minimal. It was not even ten years ago the depot was planned for Rock Bay next to Sports Traders and that design was much larger than the present one both in building size and parking area. At the time many including the DRA were opposed and this tells me we were right--that we prevented the construction of a useless white elephant.

 

I think even 10 years ago, some were wary of buying online.  That's disappeared now.

[rambaldi]

Perhaps a kiosk at the Victoria Public Market would suffice?

[Coreyburger]

You still space to physically park several buses at once, even if only for a few minutes. Look at the layover locations that BC Transit uses, and how they have to keep shuffling them around/expanding them.

[VicHockeyFan]

You still space to physically park several buses at once, even if only for a few minutes. Look at the layover locations that BC Transit uses, and how they have to keep shuffling them around/expanding them.

 

 

Plenty of room here.  And sell the tickets out of the Tourist Infocentre, using their staff.

 

Or here:

 

 

^ This pick-up area around the Homecoming statue has lots of area for people to mill around.  You could make a heated shelter too.  There are washrooms under the InfoCenre.

 

[Rob Randall]

You still space to physically park several buses at once, even if only for a few minutes. Look at the layover locations that BC Transit uses, and how they have to keep shuffling them around/expanding them.

 

And the location is sensitive. Astoria/Belevdere residents have complained about the BC Transit layover stop outside their condos and the constant noise it creates.

 

Here is the link to the old Rock Bay proposal:

 

http://vibrantvictor...nceled-in-2007/

[Nparker]

And the location is sensitive. Astoria/Belevdere residents have complained about the BC Transit layover stop outside their condos and the constant noise it creates...

Of course they have; to not complain would be un-Victorian. I have to ask though, what was there first: the condos or the buses?