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#181 jonny

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:28 AM

I'd argue that the common man who buys a car wants it or needs it now or at least this week. They don't want to wait weeks/months.

 

The Tesla sales model is for elites who can wait months for their 3rd or 4th vehicle.



#182 lanforod

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:06 AM

^ that's got nothing to do with dealership lots and everything to do with inventory. Tesla will get to the point where they can just tell a car to drive to its new owner.



#183 Gary H

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:33 PM

There goes the other one...

 

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#184 Gary H

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:42 PM

It's now 3:41 PM and the building has been completely flattened.


Edited by Gary H, 21 June 2016 - 02:42 PM.


#185 LJ

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:37 PM

It must be hard for him watching the model 3 get a half million pre orders with his Volt only selling just over 100 thousand in five years. No wonder he thought the EV market was week. He made a poor design....

Lutz hasn't been with GM since 2010 so he is probably not too worried about it.

 

Here is a little snippet I got in the e-mail inbox the other day, don't know the veracity of it....

 

 

 
 
As a "joke", my Chev dealer 
gave me a Volt as a loaner while my full-size pick-up was getting some 
attention. He thought it was funny to give his energy company CEO this 
thing here on Vancouver Island!
 
I live 30 kms outside of 
Victoria near Sidney. The battery was dead - later he admitted they 
almost never charged it. While the car was "ok", on gasoline, it 
was  pretty anemic. So for the extra money, even taking into 
account Chev rebates and Provincial incentives, you get an 
under-powered, heavy car that felt "too small" for its actual size 
(battery has to go 
somewhere).
 
Now the kicker: at a 
neighborhood bbq, I was talking to a Neighbour, a BC Hydro executive. 
I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got 
serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed 
out, you had to face certain realities.  For example, a home 
charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house 
is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approx 25 
homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more 
than 3 houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to 
have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly 
over-loaded.
 
This is the elephant in the 
room with electric vehicles ... Our residential infrastructure cannot 
bear the load. So as our genius elected officials ram this nonsense 
down our collective throats, not only are we being forced to buy the 
dam things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with 
expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to 
renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will not 
be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be 
presented with an oops and a 
shrug.

Edited by LJ, 21 June 2016 - 07:40 PM.

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#186 lanforod

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 07:50 PM

Marko is charging is with 40 amp charger, not 75. Also, any new house will have 200 amp service. I have a 1980 home with 200 amp service, though that's not normal for a house that age.

I can't comment on the neighbourhood load aspect, but if this third hand comment is already so wrong, I don't trust that either.


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#187 MarkoJ

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 12:50 AM

Actually for almost two months I was charging on 120v outlet before I got my 40 amp charger.  If you go 120v/20 amp circuit you get 8 km/h with the Model S.  Problem is often I wouldn't get home until 10 pm and then I would go to work at 7 am so 9 hours at 8 km/h wasn't enough.

 

For those that are at home a few more hours, only drive to work, 120v/20 amp circuit would work and we are talking a 4,500 lb car.

 

I am guessing the Model 3 will be over 10km/h hour on a 120v outlet.

 


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#188 MarkoJ

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 12:56 AM

Re electrical infrastructure I only charge my car at night, never before 7 pm.  I imagine the bulk of electric car charging would occur off peak grid hours.


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#189 dasmo

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 06:06 AM

I guess that's why Tesla is buying Solar City. Sell the customer a complete system. EV, rooftop solar and residential battery to store the energy and be able to quick charge the car from the battery.

#190 dasmo

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 06:12 AM

@LJ, your email mostly proves my point that the establishment doesn't get it. The Hybrid is a bad idea. Like I said, lugging around an engine only costs energy and adds weight. Using a bad design as a bench mark only limits ones vision. It's like people discounting the potential of electric bikes because of all the awful designs in the past decade. EB's are a massively growing industry. The EV is simply a much better vehicle platform. Tesla had it right all those years ago but he lost out to the establishment.

#191 LJ

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 08:07 PM

^Oh I think they make sense here (cars and bikes) because most (86%) of our energy comes from hydro. I could certainly make use of one, most I ever drive in a day around Victoria is probably less than 80k, most days less than 10k. 


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#192 Gary H

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 02:28 PM

They completely removed the basement and foundation and filled in the hole with gravel.  I guess they're not going to pave it - yet.

 

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#193 Nparker

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 02:32 PM

What a tragic use for a high profile development site. Is there at least a chance that in the near-ish future something more "vibrant" than a parking lot will get built here?



#194 Gary H

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Posted 06 July 2016 - 02:42 PM

I'm going to speculate that if/when Dockside Green finally gets built to that end of the property the land will become valuable again and the dealership will sell it for development.  They probably acquired it at distressed pricing and stand to make a nice profit down the road so to speak.  In the meantime they'll just use it as a car lot.  I'll watch to see if they now unload cars there (along Harbour Rd.).



#195 Gary H

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 05:01 PM



Meanwhile Tyee Road behind the dealership had never been so empty.

 

An even better location is the one they used today - Kimta, it's straight and more often devoid of cars compared to Tyee, which is slightly curved, has a fire hydrant, and appears to be used by some for employee parking.  In other words, Tyee is not a reliable offload street.  Kimta seems much better.

 

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#196 Mike K.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 06:20 AM

Ah, so it turns out there is an alternative to blocking bicycle lanes, travel lanes and sightlines for drivers and cyclists along Esquimalt Road :)
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#197 Coreyburger

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 09:47 AM

Although that chunk of Kimta Rd really should actually be a two-way protected bike lane to join together the two sections of the E&N trail temporarily until the Roundhouse is built out.



 



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