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#2781 pontcanna

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 06:09 PM

'Someone put her there': Mother wants answers in daughter's death
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North Cowichan-Duncan RCMP says 15-year-old Carsyn Seaweed was found in a semi-conscious state on May 15 in the 5300-block of the Trans-Canada Highway. She later died.

RCMP are investigating the suspicious death of 15-year-old Carsyn Seaweed. "She was a beautiful 15 year old girl who had her whole life ahead of her and had plans for her future," said Carsyn's mother, Marie Seaweed. 

RCMP are investigating after a 15-year-old girl died last week in Duncan under what police are calling “suspicious circumstances.”

While police say the circumstances leading to the teen’s death are suspicious, and there is an ongoing criminal investigation, investigators are not treating it as a homicide.

Marie Seaweed, Carsyn’s mother, last saw her daughter the day before her death. The two were at a soccer tournament in Duncan on Mother’s Day.

Seaweed said Carsyn decided to leave early, because it was too hot. She planned to take a bus to Mill Bay, where she lived with her grandmother, Seaweed said, then changed her mind and told her mother she would wait in Duncan until the soccer tournament ended.

When Seaweed was ready to leave, she called Carsyn several times but got no response, and eventually her calls stopped going through. She looked for her daughter in Duncan, and when she couldn’t find her, she assumed Carsyn was with her father’s family, who live in the Cowichan Valley.

The next day, she saw a photo online that showed a young girl covered in twigs, leaves, a wooden pallet and dust. Seaweed knew it was her daughter.

Seaweed said the man who shared the photo told her he found Carsyn behind a Super 8 Motel.

“He said that she was breathing and she was alive when he called the ambulance and then she started having a seizure. He said that she was very hot to touch. And she couldn’t speak. She couldn’t communicate with him, and she looked really scared, ” Seaweed said.

“The doctor came in and said that they did everything in their power to try and save her but nothing worked. They said she was too weak. Her organs were failing,” Seaweed said.

A Cowichan Valley newspaper initially reported that police said they believed no criminality was involved in the girl’s death.

Seaweed said she doesn’t understand how that could be.

“My daughter didn’t put that pallet on her. She didn’t cover herself in that dirt. She didn’t put the twigs on her. And she didn’t mean to die there. Someone put her there,” Seaweed said. “Someone left her there to die.”

Cowichan Tribes released a statement Thursday saying they have been providing support to the community, as Carsyn had ties to the nation.
 


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Posted 25 May 2023 - 06:35 PM

20-year-old B&E suspect arrested in Highlands, armed with a gun. That was the police response.

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 08:13 PM

PORTION OF LOCHSIDE TRAIL CLOSED AFTER BODY DISCOVERED

May 25, 2023

The Major Crime Unit investigated this morning and has determined that the death of the man does not appear to be suspicious.

 

CHEK's Kori laid it on the line:

 

"A strong decaying smell was coming from the area but SaanichPD were unable to say how long this person had been dead"



#2784 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 09:58 PM

While police say the circumstances leading to the teen’s death are suspicious, and there is an ongoing criminal investigation, investigators are not treating it as a homicide.

 

“RCMP investigators are satisfied that the death is not a result of a homicide, which is also being investigated by the BC Coroners Service,” the RCMP said in a statement.

 

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A Cowichan Valley newspaper initially reported that police said they believed no criminality was involved in the girl’s death.

 

Seaweed said she doesn’t understand how that could be.

 

“My daughter didn’t put that pallet on her. She didn’t cover herself in that dirt. She didn’t put the twigs on her. And she didn’t mean to die there. Someone put her there,” Seaweed said. “Someone left her there to die.”

 

 

https://www.timescol...s-death-7053545


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 25 May 2023 - 09:58 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2023 - 05:38 AM

Victoria police launch effort to connect with downtown businesses

Six-week initiative will see officers listen to businesses’ concerns, including the impact that retail theft, property crime and street disorder have on their operations

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Boarded-up broken glass doors at the Humboldt Street entrance to Nootka Court in February. Many downtown businesses have been plagued by broken glass. 

Victoria police launched Project Downtown Connect this week to meet with businesses and increase their visibility in the downtown area.

The initiative started Monday, and will see officers on foot engaging with businesses daily until June 30, listening to their concerns, including the impact that retail theft, property crime and street disorder have on their operations.

“Engaging with local businesses helps us understand the specific, day-to-day challenges they face, and answers the call for a more visible presence in the downtown core,” said Victoria Police Chief Del Manak. “Through this project, we will provide businesses with crime-prevention tools and a meaningful connection to our organization, so we can build a safer community together.”

Downtown Victoria Business Association chief executive Jeff Bray said he supports the approach.

Recent incidents downtown include a hammer-wielding man robbing Francis Jewellers on Broughton Street in April, along with a string of random glass-breaking.

 

Morehttps://www.timescol...inesses-7053441



#2786 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 06:20 AM

Slow clap.



#2787 todd

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 08:06 AM

Maybe we could set up the “Vibrant Angels”? Who wants the first shift?

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 08:12 AM

Slow clap.

I did a long sigh, synchronized with a shoulder shrug, followed by saying “finally the dumbasses are trying something”.


To be fair I think my sleep apnoea makes me grouchy in the mornings. I don’t want to wear one of those masks

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#2789 Mike K.

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 08:18 AM

Stirling is recounting someone's incident downtown, while stuck in traffic yesterday morning. It turned out to be the AM traffic incident on Johnson at Douglas which closed the northbound lanes.

 

A fight between two men broke out on the street, and the writer was sitting in their car as one of the men takes cover behind his or her vehicle, and their rear window ends up getting smashed during the fight. The victim, one of the two men, was left injured. The individual in the car says they were shook up. Police asked for a statement prior to a court hearing, as there is a hearing at 8PM on whether or not to keep the person in custody or not.

 

Stirling says pictures of the vehicle were provided as proof.


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Posted 26 May 2023 - 08:26 AM

Police asked for a statement prior to a court hearing, as there is a hearing at 8PM on whether or not to keep the person in custody or not.

 

Stirling says pictures of the vehicle were provided as proof.

 

That kind of evidence is not accepted by the court at a bail hearing.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 May 2023 - 08:29 AM.


#2791 Mike K.

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 08:50 AM

Proof of the post being legit, not to show a judge, I think.

Also, Stirling has clarified this was actually a Wednesday incident, not a Thursday incident. The road closure was related to something else.

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 03:51 PM

The police formerly said there was no foul play. Now they have backtracked.

And blamed the public for misinformation.

 

 

 

 

In an emotional address, RCMP in Duncan, B.C., located about 60 kilometres north of Victoria, publicly apologized to the family of 15-year-old Carsyn Mackenzie Seaweed on Friday — saying a miscommunication between police agencies resulted in incorrect information being released that the teenager's death was not being investigated as suspicious. 

 

Seaweed, who was from the Namgis Nation and the Cowichan Tribes, disappeared in Duncan on May 14 while attending a local soccer tournament with her mother. She was found alive but weak the following day behind a Super 8 Motel off the Trans Canada highway and died a short while later.

 

The man who found her body told her family that she was under a wood pallet and covered in twigs and garbage.

 

RCMP initially released information saying that criminality was not suspected in the teenager's death, but 24 hours later, issued a new statement saying "circumstances surrounding her death are considered suspicious, and a criminal investigation remains ongoing."

 

RCMP said Thursday investigators didn't consider the death a homicide. 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-rcmp-1.6856097


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 May 2023 - 03:52 PM.


#2793 pontcanna

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Posted 26 May 2023 - 04:00 PM

Also, Stirling has clarified this was actually a Wednesday incident, not a Thursday incident. 

 

See the Victoria Crime thread.



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Posted 26 May 2023 - 04:00 PM

Group demands justice for late Indigenous teen with protest outside Cowichan RCMP detachment

 

 

Adrian Sylvester was shocked and surprised when the RCMP initially announced that they believed there was no criminality involved in the death of First Nation teenager Carsyn Mackenzie Seaweed.

 

Sylvester was one of roughly 30 people who gathered in front of the North Cowichan/Duncan RCMP detachment on Friday (May 26) to protest the police’s handling of the investigation into the death of 15-year-old Seaweed.

 

The Citizen is now reporting her name as her family has identified her publicly.

 

 

 

https://www.vicnews....cmp-detachment/


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 May 2023 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2023 - 11:46 PM

 

RCMP initially released information saying that criminality was not suspected in the teenager's death, but 24 hours later, issued a new statement saying "circumstances surrounding her death are considered suspicious, and a criminal investigation remains ongoing."

 

RCMP said Thursday investigators didn't consider the death a homicide.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-rcmp-1.6856097

 

 

 

 

 

“We have enough missing and murdered women around here and all over Canada as it is now, so we need to stop this,” said Adrian Sylvester, who organized the rally.

 

RCMP said Wednesday that investigators believed there was no criminality involved in Carsyn’s death, but on Thursday said a criminal investigation was underway and was being treated with “extreme priority and concern.”

 

After Sylvester entered the detachment during the rally, two RCMP officers came out to meet the group of about 40 people, many of whom held “Justice for Carsyn” signs.

“We just want you to know that all people matter when it comes to situations like this,” Sylvester told the officers, questioning why it appeared Mounties were not conducting a criminal investigation into Carsyn’s death from the beginning.

 

Insp. Chris Bear said the messaging from police around criminality changed from Wednesday to Thursday because there had been a miscommunication between the North Cowichan-Duncan RCMP detachment and the Island district media liaison.

 

 

https://www.timescol...s-death-7059481

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure they have cleared anything up.  Did the autopsy say she died of exposure?  That's what is seems like to me.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 May 2023 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2023 - 06:37 AM

In mid-May? The nights were not cold enough to kill, I don’t think. Or could it have been that cold?

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Posted 27 May 2023 - 06:39 AM

Double post.

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Posted 27 May 2023 - 06:41 AM

The less body mass you have, the easier to succumb. 15 year old female. What does the autopsy say?

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Posted 27 May 2023 - 06:47 AM

She was found “weak but alive”. What put her body in that state? Exposure or drugs / alcohol. Trauma and blood loss would not have lead police to their first conclusion.

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Posted 30 May 2023 - 12:12 AM

Looks like the Super 8 they speak of is the Super 8 by Wyndham Duncan at 5325 Trans-Canada Highway.

 

If she was found behind the Super 8 as stated, There's a trail going through a wooded area. Right smack in the centre it looks like there's a dumping ground (my interpretation from Google Maps).

 

The trail looks to be wide enough for a small vehicle.

 

Either she walked in (if that is where she was), was carried in or was dumped out of a car.

 

Question is, one article says she was covered over by dirt, twigs and a pallet while a post on Reddit claims cardboard.

 

And a body hot to the touch ending in organ failure, sounds like heatstroke and not drinking enough water. Carsyn did complain it was hot the day she disappeared.

 

But why didn't she answer her phone? Did she lose it?

 

Many questions are raised.

 

One of the people I feel sorry for is her mother. For the rest of her life she's going to regret having not made that phone call to Carsyn's father's family.



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