This thread appears to have become a personal vendetta for certain individuals against Len Barrie.
Regardless of how it comes out in the wash and whether you like it or not, this project has created homes for thousands, jobs for thousands and has had a significant impact on our local economy. Its also contributed to the beautification of a municipality that was the laughing stock of the rest of Victoria.
Because it appears to have been hijacked by one person, I and others have limited or stopped commenting on it as there is no room for debate or discussion anymore due to the tunnel vision of this one person.
Moderators take note (and particularly note rjags join date). He has been on this site for some time and speaks for many of us when we state that we are fed up with the rhetoric passed off as news here. Len Barrie no longer owns or controls Bear Mountain. Who cares about him? I would suggest that this thread be limited to Bear Mountain, its current principles (HSBC et al) and anything that is going on there now. If VV thinks that Len Barrie deserves his own sepearate thread where he can be maligned feel free to start one.