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#2341 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 July 2021 - 12:29 PM

let the current renters back at their now rate.

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Posted 23 July 2021 - 01:17 PM

although rent controls are stupid. and incentivise laziness.

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#2343 DavidSchell

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Posted 23 July 2021 - 04:49 PM

Until specific members of counsel and the wannabes counsel members get it through their cement heads you are never going to solve the affordable houses crises until you solve the houses crises the problem is only going to get worse. 

 

The inability of counsels like Ben who always find a way to say NO is the root of this problem. 


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Posted 26 July 2021 - 02:41 PM

Perhaps we need a billboard on the highway from the ferry and the airport.

“ IF YOU ARE NEW TO TOWN AND YOU ARE NEEDING HOUSING, TURN AROUND…YOU ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE. “

#2345 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 02:49 PM

There certainly have been billboards with personal messages before.

 

I think the next phase of the reality facing post-secondary students is to choose schools where mom and dad can afford to buy you a condo for five years, or if they can't, you may have to find another school or struggle to find rental housing. There's no easy way around this.

 

I mean look at the cost of groceries post-COVID. I've seen items rise by 20-30% in a matter of weeks.

 

We're at the point now where it makes more economic sense to buy a condo for your kid than to pay $20,000 in rent per annum.


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#2346 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 02:52 PM

soon white students won’t be going to post secondary so maybe it will ease a bit.


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It asks the recipient to check one of the two boxes: 'I am a racist hypocrite' or 'I agree' to the pledge

The group said it sent the pledge out to the '95 percent white Highland Park and University Park neighborhoods' and will announce publicly who hasn't signed it

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#2347 Ismo07

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 02:56 PM

Perhaps we need a billboard on the highway from the ferry and the airport.

“ IF YOU ARE NEW TO TOWN AND YOU ARE NEEDING HOUSING, TURN AROUND…YOU ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE. “

 

In my experience people do not really read signs well... ;)


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#2348 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 03:00 PM

^Lol.


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Posted 26 July 2021 - 03:18 PM

...I think the next phase of the reality facing post-secondary students is to choose schools where mom and dad can afford to buy you a condo for five years...

This is what my sister and brother-in-law did for my niece while she was getting her nursing degree at VIU in Courtenay.



#2350 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 03:36 PM

it’s probably somewhat common. if you can pull it off you’ve got a vacation home or retirement place for later.

#2351 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 03:49 PM

Right. And if all goes well you sell and recoup the kid’s college costs.

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 04:15 PM

I think the next phase of the reality facing post-secondary students is to choose schools where mom and dad can afford to buy you a condo for five years, or if they can't, you may have to find another school or struggle to find rental housing. There's no easy way around this.

 

 

Yup, there's two like that in my building.  Lucky me, I'm directly below one of them.

 

And of course the rental restriction bylaw doesn't apply to immediate family...  


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Posted 26 July 2021 - 04:28 PM

Or just get into McGill/Concordia/UdeM/UQAM and live in one of the hundreds of rental buildings, sublet duplex and triplexes, private student housing buildings, or university student housing buildings (speaking from experience and missing life in a midtown 2BR apartment for $1200/mo...)
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#2354 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 04:33 PM

why is it that Quebec has such low rents?

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 07:20 PM

Or University of New Brunswick in Fredericton or St. John.


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Posted 26 July 2021 - 11:55 PM

There certainly have been billboards with personal messages before.
 
I think the next phase of the reality facing post-secondary students is to choose schools where mom and dad can afford to buy you a condo for five years, or if they can't, you may have to find another school or struggle to find rental housing. There's no easy way around this.
 
I mean look at the cost of groceries post-COVID. I've seen items rise by 20-30% in a matter of weeks.
 
We're at the point now where it makes more economic sense to buy a condo for your kid than to pay $20,000 in rent per annum.


Had some business on McKenzie on Friday, noticed the big Brown Bros. apartment had a vacancy sign so googled it up. 500sq ft one bed below ground (ground floor) ugly as sin, $1400 a month. You gotta be kidding me.

We saw the unit in the Otto we wanted pop up again last week, same price as March 2019 give or take.. sold before we could get any ducks in a row unfortunately.

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 10:17 AM

why is it that Quebec has such low rents?


Supply, a history of building rental housing, and a strong provincial rental board. 60% of Montreal households rent, vacancy rate is 6%, and basically all properties have more than one dwelling unit. Duplexes and triplexes are the norm and often aren't strata, so you'll have generally one owner and one or two renters.

Mind you a lot of the supply is old and in various states of repair. My apartment was built in 1912 and very well maintained, but not upgraded to the latest and greatest (i.e. no stainless steel appliances, no dishwasher, coin laundry in basement, no AC). It did have beautiful brick walls and wood flooring, though!
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#2358 Mike K.

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 10:27 AM

We can also thank land size. The City of Montreal has a physical footprint nearly the size of the entire Capital Regional District, at 430 kilometers squared. The City of Victoria is 19. Montreal with its suburbs has a footprint of 4,600 square kilometers, equal to 15% of Vancouver Island's land mass.

 

We are swimming against the tide in Victoria and wondering why everything is so difficult.


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#2359 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 10:35 AM

the island of montreal has an oil refinery and terminal that's almost as large as victoria. same scale:

 

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#2360 Jackerbie

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 10:48 AM

Fun fact, Montréal-Est is a separate municipality of less than 4,000 people. If you thought the CRD was bad for municipal borders and princedoms, never look at the absolute atrocity that is the island of Montreal!
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