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[VicHockeyFan]

Is he out?

 

Might never be out, just been (March 2016) declared dangerous offender.

[Jill]

^Manley Eng? I thought he was released several years ago and was living with his parents in Saanich.

[VicHockeyFan]

^Manley Eng? I thought he was released several years ago and was living with his parents in Saanich.

 

Oh ya, my mistake.  All the serial arsonists seem alike to me:

 

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ender-1.3514836

 

 

Victoria arsonist Daniel Charles Sutherland declared dangerous offender

 

Judge gives firebug indeterminate sentence after criminal history that includes multiple blazes

 

[3isenough]

Manley Eng, living with his parents and no bail conditions.

http://www.canada.co...8c-45ba7d88a6f8

[LJ]

So I guess we can assume the sprinkler system in the new condos was not energized. How about in the occupied ones?

[RFS]

Any word on whether this was an arsonist? Could be related to the fire at home depot

[Rob Randall]

Police were being cagey, saying only that it was prudent to call it suspicious until proven accidental. Saanich fire seemed to lean more toward suspicious than accidental.

Cedar Hill opened late this afternoon, giving the public the first closeup look of the remains of Cedar Walk.

I see that three buildings were involved--Cedar Walk was destroyed, one phase of Gardiner's Green had the facing facade completely burned away and another separate building had some damage.

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[sebberry]

So I guess we can assume the sprinkler system in the new condos was not energized. How about in the occupied ones?

 

The new building was still quite early in construction, as this dramatic video taken a few hours before the fire will show.  I doubt sprinklers were installed. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N36B9l9JNvY 

[RFS]

What are the financial impacts to the developer in a case like this? Insurance must cover most of the costs. I guess now they rebuild?

[VicHockeyFan]

What are the financial impacts to the developer in a case like this? Insurance must cover most of the costs. I guess now they rebuild?

Oh ya it would be insured the holder of the first mortgage would make sure of that.

[Rob Randall]

The developer says they will rebuild.

[lanforod]

What are the financial impacts to the developer in a case like this? Insurance must cover most of the costs. I guess now they rebuild?

 

I own in a building on the mainland that had a similar situation 9 yrs ago where one building burnt down, and another was damaged. Ultimately, the developer did finish the buildings, but went bankrupt soon after - though I don't know how related it was to the fire. Insurance maybe covered the loss, but not the time lost to the developer? as it sets them months or a year behind schedule.

[RFS]

Yeah I can't imagine it's good for the business

[57WestHills]

Are there still street closures in the area of the Cedar Hill fire?

[3isenough]

No, just drove through an hour ago.

[57WestHills]

Thanks!

[Sparky]

^ Isn't that nice....one VV addict helping another... 

[Bingo]

At the rate which the exposed wood went up at the recent Cedar Hill Road fire, there are other precautions a homeowner can take.

Many people spread bark mulch on their gardens to help keep the weeds down, but this could fuel a fire close to your home if a cigarette lands in it.

http://www.nanaimobu.../379593921.html

http://www.richmond-...n-heat-1.493511

 

[todd]

At the rate which the exposed wood went up at the recent Cedar Hill Road fire, there are other precautions a homeowner can take.

Many people spread bark mulch on their gardens to help keep the weeds down, but this could fuel a fire close to your home if a cigarette lands in it.

http://www.nanaimobu.../379593921.html

http://www.richmond-...n-heat-1.493511

Also it doesn't do your plants very much good if you're using Cedar bark mulch as it contains a natural toxin which kills weeds... and your plants(or at least makes them sick or the very least not very happy, unless your growing a cedar tree)there's better mulchs out there(probably less flammable but no guarantee).

 

 

Once put a match out in a cedar planter without thinking much about it other people had used it for putting out Cigarettes in the past I could see, what I did not realize is that the soil was mostly peat moss and had dried out and is very flammable at that point(since learned some people actually use peat moss to heat their house). Went to bed about four hours later/3:00am the Dog woke me up poking at me a bit didn't think too much of it decided to get up to use the washroom look out the window, I think "oh left the porch light on" I double take to realize it's a blazing fire on the deck it had burned through the peat moss and the cedar planter and had engulfed the entire corner of the deck/vinyl siding, I quickly grabbed the fire extinguisher and without thinking it through very much open the door and run out onto the deck with flaming vinyl siding dripping down around my head and heavy smoke coming my way as I exit the doorway, sprayed it down with the first fire extinguisher amazingly got most of it out ran back in grabbed the second extinguisher and knocked it down. I couldn't believe it luckily only destroyed the deck and a good chunk of outer vinyl siding/outer wall for the most part, another couple minutes of sleeping the whole house/me could be have of been gone.

[sebberry]

I hope the dog got a treat for that