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#1181 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 08:06 PM

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#1182 DavidL

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:11 AM

^^That was me if anyone cares.  I was objecting to the 1200% increase in business licence fees-for context the Delta Ocean Pointe Hotel pays $1380 per year for it's business licence- and the specific strata approval requirement, which effectively downloads approving authority onto strata councils who in turn have no commensurate requirement, in law, to provide a response to an owner for such a letter, one way or the other.  It's not a question of whether they could, or they might or even that they should, it's the fact that it is an activity that is outside of the strata property act and consequently is one that shouldn't even be entertained by a strata council. It's just another example of the city not having any real understanding of the subject matter in which they are dealing.  


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#1183 spanky123

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:51 AM

^^That was me if anyone cares.  I was objecting to the 1200% increase in business licence fees-for context the Delta Ocean Pointe Hotel pays $1380 per year for it's business licence- and the specific strata approval requirement, which effectively downloads approving authority onto strata councils who in turn have no commensurate requirement, in law, to provide a response to an owner for such a letter, one way or the other.  It's not a question of whether they could, or they might or even that they should, it's the fact that it is an activity that is outside of the strata property act and consequently is one that shouldn't even be entertained by a strata council. It's just another example of the city not having any real understanding of the subject matter in which they are dealing.  

 

Either that or they completely understand what they are doing and are in effect banning short term rentals in all stratas knowing that the councils won't provide the letter.

 

In my opinion the real issue is that they are pushing ahead with their own rules ahead of legislation that a higher level of Government is already working on.


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#1184 Rob Randall

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:57 AM

If they were so inclined would strata councils decide on their own or would it have to go to the annual general meeting? Either way I doubt stratas want to touch this for liability issues alone. That's one thing you learn there: cover your butt and don't run outside your lane.


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#1185 DavidL

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

If they were so inclined would strata councils decide on their own or would it have to go to the annual general meeting? Either way I doubt stratas want to touch this for liability issues alone. That's one thing you learn there: cover your butt and don't run outside your lane.

 

Strata councils can decide to do whatever they want, the issue is that responsible strata councils only do that which is prescribed by the strata property act, and their lawyers advise them accordingly.  The actual wording of the licencing requirement 3(2)(d) is:

 

"(d) if the premises where the short-term rental will be offered are located within a strata lot, provide a letter from the strata council confirming that provision of short-term rental does not contradict any bylaws of the strata corporation or applicable provisions of the Strata Property Act;"

 

There is no provision in the strata property act that requires such a letter to be issued.  Some strata councils may erroneously believe that some other bylaw they have restricts the use, and I can tell you that no strata council is in a position to comment on whether a particular use contradicts any applicable provision of the strata property act.  This requirement is wholly designed to create a friction point between stratas and owners.

 

To answer your question a bit more specifically I suppose it would depend on what sort of council was in charge at the time.  



#1186 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

^^That was me if anyone cares.  I was objecting to the 1200% increase in business licence fees-for context the Delta Ocean Pointe Hotel pays $1380 per year for it's business licence- and the specific strata approval requirement, which effectively downloads approving authority onto strata councils who in turn have no commensurate requirement, in law, to provide a response to an owner for such a letter, one way or the other.  It's not a question of whether they could, or they might or even that they should, it's the fact that it is an activity that is outside of the strata property act and consequently is one that shouldn't even be entertained by a strata council. It's just another example of the city not having any real understanding of the subject matter in which they are dealing.  

 

Thanks, David.   I had left out your name as the info came from a private FB group, but I thought the points were important.


<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#1187 Jason-L

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:03 AM

https://www.citylab....rk-city/552749/

There are two kinds of horror stories about Airbnb. When the home-sharing platform first appeared, the initial cautionary tales tended to emphasize extreme guest (and occasionally host) misbehavior. But as the now decade-old service matured and the number of rental properties proliferated dramatically, a second genre emerged, one that focused on what the service was doing to the larger community: Airbnb was raising rents and taking housing off the rental market. It was supercharging gentrification while discriminating against guests and hosts of color. And as commercial operators took over, it was transforming from a way to help homeowners occasionally rent out an extra room into a purveyor of creepy, makeshift hotels.

 

... Their conclusion: Most of those rumors are true. Wachsmuth found reason to believe that Airbnb has indeed raised rents, removed housing from the rental market, and fueled gentrification—at least in New York City. 

 



#1188 lanforod

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:19 AM

I don't understand how they can factually state that Airbnb (or short term rentals in general) are directly responsible for 1.4% rent rate increase. What about other factors, how do they account for that?



#1189 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:45 AM

Discriminating against guest and hosts of colour?  How so?


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#1190 Mattjvd

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:12 AM

I don't understand how they can factually state that Airbnb (or short term rentals in general) are directly responsible for 1.4% rent rate increase. What about other factors, how do they account for that?


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#1191 Jackerbie

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:16 AM

Discriminating against guest and hosts of colour?  How so?

 

There have been a number of cases where hosts have cancelled reservations or refused to accept a reservation based on the guest's profile photo or name. Haven't heard about discrimination against hosts.



#1192 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:22 AM

There have been a number of cases where hosts have cancelled reservations or refused to accept a reservation based on the guest's profile photo or name. Haven't heard about discrimination against hosts.

 

I can see that.  Is that Air BnB's fault though?


<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#1193 Mike K.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:05 PM

Plenty of white people have been discriminated against by hosts using the platform, too, especially in this age where some hosts feel politicizing a rental rate for a perceived Trump supporter is justified.

 

People kinda generally suck sometimes. Folks from every corner of the earth.


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#1194 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:26 PM

So there is a public hearing on the new rules tonight, City Hall.


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#1195 Mike K.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:32 PM

I wonder if the head of Tourism Victoria will address council.
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#1196 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:37 PM

A whole bunch of owners will.


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#1197 todd

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:50 PM

I can see that. Is that Air BnB's fault though?


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#1198 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:00 PM

David Langlois will speak at the beginning of the meeting tonight.


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#1199 spanky123

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:47 PM

I don't understand how they can factually state that Airbnb (or short term rentals in general) are directly responsible for 1.4% rent rate increase. What about other factors, how do they account for that?

 

In 2016, the Trudeau Government increased the allotment of immigrants to Canada by 100K from about 240K to 340K. Total housing starts in Canada did not increase.

 

That as much as Airbnb, is responsible for the housing shortage. 



#1200 Kungsberg

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 05:45 AM

Last night's vote....

 

"Council approves new bylaw governing short-term vacation rentals"

 

as reported by Chek News

 

https://www.cheknews...rentals-427035/



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