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#1661 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 11:57 AM

can someone build a simple timeline?  with the letter revealed yesterday and when helps and desjardins said and did what before they were booted from the discipline team.



#1662 Bingo

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:35 PM

can someone build a simple timeline? 

 

Stephen Andrew has a bit of a timeline over on the Elsner thread post 1032.

https://vibrantvicto...-52#entry459018

 

I am looking forward to an updated timeline from FOCUS magazine, but they are probably still doing some additional investigative work.



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:38 PM

Helps obviously doesn't realize that putting herself up against Lowe presents the opportunity to clearly display what a rank amateur she is, at least when stacked up against Lowe as the consummate professional.

 

For Helps to publicly state that she feels Lowe might have "libeled" or "defamed" her only highlights what a bumbling neophyte she was through the entire investigation (and still is today)

It demonstrates that her bluster isn't nearly enough to carry her when the professionals show up on the scene.

 

It's not complicated really, Helps has simply been "outed" by Lowes report as a politician who's way in over her head ... but one whose ego keeps pushing her forward, and prevents her from achieving any perspective whatsoever on her own personal shortcomings.


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#1664 Bingo

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:03 PM

Helps obviously doesn't realize that putting herself up against Lowe presents the opportunity to clearly display what a rank amateur she is, at least when stacked up against Lowe as the consummate professional.

 

For Helps to publicly state that she feels Lowe might have "libeled" or "defamed" her only highlights what a bumbling neophyte she was through the entire investigation (and still is today)

It demonstrates that her bluster isn't nearly enough to carry her when the professionals show up on the scene.

 

It's not complicated really, Helps has simply been "outed" by Lowes report as a politician who's way in over her head ... but one whose ego keeps pushing her forward, and prevents her from achieving any perspective whatsoever on her own personal shortcomings.

 

Helps would probably have just swept the whole matter under the rug if the Elsner report had surfaced AFTER the election.

Now she has to grovel her way through and bring up distractions to keep the voters occupied with campaign promises, and calling for a smoke and mirrors audit of the new Johnson Street Bridge.



#1665 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:55 PM

Helps has elaborated on her daycare ‘done deal’ with the following. Note the “subject to,” “depending on,” and “up to” as qualifiers throughout:

The plan for the 300 spaces is to work with School District 61 to provide modular learning units on school properties throughout the city. This will create ease for parents with a child in daycare and a child in school by creating one drop-off spot rather than two. It will also make an easier transition for young children from daycare to school.

Subject to Provincial funding, the plan is as follows:

- Vic West Elementary School – 2019, Two units plus the gym divider (32 + 25 = 57). It could hold up to 75 new spaces depending on programming.
- Fairfield Sir James Douglas – 2019/2020, One unit (16 – 20 young children + 25 school age) potentially 45 new spaces depending on programming and licensing.
- Fernwood – George Jay – 2020, One unit (16 – 20 young children + 25 school age) potentially 45 new spaces depending on programming and licensing.
- Oaklands – 2020, One unit (16 – 20 young children + 25 school age) potentially 45 new spaces depending on programming and licensing.
- South Park – 2021, One unit (16 – 20 young children + 25 school age) potentially 45 new spaces depending on programming and licensing.
- James Bay – 2021, One unit (16 – 20 young children + 25 school age) potentially 45 new spaces depending on programming and licensing.

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#1666 spanky123

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 03:59 PM

So Helps tries to take credit for her "done deal" when in fact it is a SD61 plan that is subject to funding. She wrote a letter of support. 


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#1667 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:01 PM

Hold on. Is that what this is? This an SD61 initiative?

Do we have details on SD61 schools in Saanich also pursuing these spaces?

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#1668 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:03 PM

black press article has the breakdown. most funding by far is in saanich.

#1669 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:04 PM

Oh brother.
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#1670 Bingo

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:05 PM

Hold on. Is that what this is? This an SD61 initiative?

Do we have details on SD61 schools in Saanich also pursuing these spaces?

 

Is this part of the announcement.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-care-1.4756177



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:07 PM

Oh brother.

 

HAHAHAHA Mike, you act so surprised! Do you honestly believe she thought this up and put it in motion? If anything she was asked to write a letter of support and is now taking ownership! Can you believe anything coming out of her mouth anymore?


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#1672 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:08 PM

So the CBC completely missed Helps, who writes on her blog that she “gathered Island Health, the provincial government, School District 61, the Chamber of Commerce and the childcare providers around one table?”

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:14 PM

Hold on. Is that what this is? This an SD61 initiative?

Do we have details on SD61 schools in Saanich also pursuing these spaces?

 

From vicnews

 

At this point, SD61 has submitted an application to the province and Helps has submitted a letter of support. No date has been set for a funding announcement, but Helps anticipates they will hear from the province soon.



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:16 PM

HAHAHAHA Mike, you act so surprised! Do you honestly believe she thought this up and put it in motion? If anything she was asked to write a letter of support and is now taking ownership! Can you believe anything coming out of her mouth anymore?

 

That is why I said it was an act of desperation to post on her blog that she had created 300+ new childcare spaces when funding isn't even certain and all they have done is submit an application. 

 

In my opinion you have to have something seriously wrong with you to be acting the way she has been.


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#1675 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:16 PM

Interesting. Helps clearly outlines how she brought multiple parties to the table after being approached by childcare providers who sought her help, and how these spaces were the result of “18 months of work with an informal Childcare Solutions Working Group lead by Mayor Helps.”

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#1676 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:23 PM

The 300 proposed childcare spaces would be housed in modular learning units on School District 61 properties, which Helps argues makes it easier for parents by creating a single drop-off spot rather than two, as well as offer an easier transition for young children from daycare to school.

 

For the entire SD61 region, the provincial budget would allocate $11 million, while just over $3 million would go to Victoria’s spaces.


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#1677 spanky123

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 04:28 PM

Interesting. Helps clearly outlines how she brought multiple parties to the table after being approached by childcare providers who sought her help, and how these spaces were the result of “18 months of work with an informal Childcare Solutions Working Group lead by Mayor Helps.”

 

Reading the CBC article it sounds like daycare spaces already exist in modular housing (there are currently 1,000 in Vic) and this program is just adding to that.

 

The Greater Victoria School District already has 1,000 child-care spaces on its properties, mostly for school-age kids, but following the announcement, trustees are looking to create more to help meet the government's target.



#1678 Midnightly

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:08 PM

wasn't this something that the NDP government announced.. funding for new childcare spaces and the creation of new childcare spaces?



#1679 Bingo

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:34 PM

Vital Signs can be found here.

https://victoriafoun...port-Aug-14.pdf



 



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