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#161 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:58 PM

Speaking of building tall (in Vancouver), there are no renderings yet but Pinnacle is planning the tallest building outside Toronto in.... Burnaby. At 82 storeys or 900 ft, it'll be about 240 ft taller than the current tallest building in Vancouver, the Living Shangri-La, and about 80 ft taller than the current reigning non-Toronto tower, the Stantec Tower in Edmonton.

 

via https://urbanyvr.com...sed-for-burnaby

 

very interesting thanks jackerbie.

 

The tallest tower, the east tower, will be 82 storeys tall (approximately 900 ft.) and include retail, hotel and residential. The west tower will be 67 storeys, with retail, office and residential, and the south tower will be 62 storeys tall with retail and residential. It’s not known what hotel brand will be on the project.

 

For comparison, the tallest tower in downtown Vancouver is the Living Shangri-La residences and hotel at 659 ft., or 62 storeys.

 



#162 Mike K.

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 10:34 PM

I never realized Stantec was taller than The Bow in Calgary.

Startec, btw, is the tower where that video was taken of the window cleaners getting blown around by heavy winds.

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#163 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 06:52 AM

Encana, one of the oldest and most recognizable Canadian energy companies, is moving its Calgary-based headquarters to the United States next year and renaming itself to Ovintov in order to shed the negative connotation of “Canada” in its name, just like TransCanada Corp recently did with its rename to TC Energy.

The move comes amid a historic outflow of investment capital and declining investment potential in Canada due to the pipeline fiasco and general concerns over investment potential under the Liberals.

Tying this all back to the discussion above, The Bow, Calgary’s tallest building, was built for Encana. At that time I recall a CBC interview I did and they asked me what this meant for Calgary. I said the construction of statement towers like the Bow is so often a sign of the peak of that local market. I didn’t realize then how prophetic that quip would turn out to be.

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#164 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 07:03 AM

cbc: what does the bow mean for Canada?

mike: it means Encana will stay in Canada for decades to come.

CBC 2019: Encana is leaving for the USA.

mike: exactly what I said.



(Mike also famously consulted for the Clinton presidency and coined the phrases “did not have sexual relations with that woman” and “depends what is is”)

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#165 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 07:10 AM

I said building these massive skyscrapers can foretell periods of underperformance and lacklustre economic output in the local market. Why? Because these projects are conceived in times of growth, prosperity and positive outlook. But the length of time it takes to plan, approve, finance, build, occupy and adjust to the new carrying cost of the tower can often see a company’s fortunes turn. And that’s exactly what happened in Calgary, where a time of unprecedented prosperity which saw the pursuit of these massive skyscrapers turned out as a lead into one of the most disastrous periods in the city’s history with Encana (Energy Canada) fleeing its home base.

This is a national tragedy but because it’s not happening in Montreal or Toronto the rest of the country might not care. Some will, of course, celebrate this.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 08:09 AM

Speaking of building tall (in Vancouver), there are no renderings yet but Pinnacle is planning the tallest building outside Toronto in.... Burnaby. At 82 storeys or 900 ft, it'll be about 240 ft taller than the current tallest building in Vancouver, the Living Shangri-La, and about 80 ft taller than the current reigning non-Toronto tower, the Stantec Tower in Edmonton.

 

via https://urbanyvr.com...sed-for-Burnaby

 

And we have a concept image now! CBC has a write up, too.

 

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#167 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 08:56 AM

There's nothing quite like a beautiful supertall office building. But with these ultra-high residential towers there's only so much you can architecturally do while keeping costs for purchasers attainable.


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#168 Nparker

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 08:59 AM

...with these ultra-high residential towers there's only so much you can architecturally do while keeping costs for purchasers attainable.

And making the interior spaces livable.



#169 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 09:01 AM

There's nothing quite like a beautiful supertall office building. But with these ultra-high residential towers there's only so much you can architecturally do while keeping costs for purchasers attainable.

 

would it be true mike that a residential or hotel building can go higher as it needs less elevators than say an office building that has major traffic at 8:30-9am and 4:30-5pm?

 

also it seems to me esquimalt - even in the esquimalt high school industrial area - would be a no-brainer place for a very tall residential tower.  why not?  pretty nice views 360.


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#170 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 09:12 AM

Elevators certainly play a role in terms of a building's footprint, so these ultra-tall residential buildings can rise to those heights due to their much smaller occupancy loads and as you point out, a reduced need for a large core with many elevators.


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#171 lanforod

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 01:52 PM

For 82 storeys, I'd imagine it's a set of 6 elevators for a 25 storey hotel part, 2 to get to another set of 4 or 6 higher elevators for the 50 storey residential part or something like that. Assuming residential above hotel.


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#172 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 03:33 PM

For the hotel you really just need two or three for 25-storeys. A separate entrance is usually available for residents and the elevators will be split 26-50 and 51-82, etc.

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#173 Mike K.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 03:35 PM

Also, speed plays a huge part. If you have very fast elevators they negate the need for more shafts.

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#174 AllseeingEye

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 05:29 PM

Interesting proposal; the original "supertall" building was proposed nearly 15 years ago in Surrey as part of the Central City development; that building was nixed though as it was too close to the flight-path of YVR. Presumably these towers are sufficiently to the north-west that they pose no such navigation hazard.

 

Between this one, the Brentwood Mall remake and the just unveiled proposal to massively update, expand and morph Metrotown into its de facto 'downtown' - over an 80 year timeline, with buildings up to 65 stories - Burnaby is really on a roll.


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#175 Danma

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 06:20 PM

The area around Metrotown just continues to get higher and higher. It's pretty crazy. The skytrain line there must just keep getting busier and busier...



#176 lanforod

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 06:42 PM

They really need to rebuild that pedestrian bridge to Metrotown mall

#177 LJ

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 07:44 PM

Frank Lloyd Wright proposed a mile high skyscraper for Chicago back in 1957, 528 stories. Now that is a true high rise.

 

https://www.chicagot...528-column.html


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