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#2361 exc911ence

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 04:25 PM

A report which recommends further study...WTF kind of sick joke is this? Is that an Onion article?

 

It's called job security.  :whyme:


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#2362 Bernard

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 01:39 PM

Remind me again how much money the Province contributed to the Johnson Street Bridge replacement?

The province was never asked to put any funding into the bridge



#2363 Bob Fugger

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:33 PM

The province was never asked to put any funding into the bridge

 

Not formally, no.  But I know folks @ MOTI who had had "some conversations" and the fact that JSB would have been the largest ask of infrastructure funds of any of the projects that had come in - BY FAR - I think stopped the City from applying.



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Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:41 PM

^except for infrastructure projects on the mainland, right?
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#2365 Mike K.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:52 PM

Back when the feds pledged $21 million, the province could have easily pledged $21 million as well. They were spending BILLIONS on funding Vancouver’s Olympic dreams and post-Olympic infrastructure projects.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 11:13 PM

Saw Horgan at the WJC game tonight (Sweden vs Finland) donning a Canada #18 jersey with "Horgan" on the back.

So he's "that" guy, is he?

#2367 rjag

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 08:01 AM

Saw Horgan at the WJC game tonight (Sweden vs Finland) donning a Canada #18 jersey with "Horgan" on the back.

So he's "that" guy, is he?


Reports on Twitter that his video recorded welcome played in Vancouver at the Canada game was loudly boo’d... Keith Baldrey was commenting on it and saying it took Christy Clark to just before the ‘17 election to receive that
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#2368 rjag

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 08:01 AM

Saw Horgan at the WJC game tonight (Sweden vs Finland) donning a Canada #18 jersey with "Horgan" on the back.

So he's "that" guy, is he?


Reports on Twitter that his video recorded welcome played in Vancouver at the Canada game was loudly boo’d... Keith Baldrey was commenting on it and saying it took Christy Clark to just before the ‘17 election to receive that

#2369 Cassidy

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 10:40 AM

Canadian hockey crowds cheer hockey players ... everybody else from Gary Bettman to any politician gets "boo'd".

There is no "in-between"!

 

Bottom line is ... if you're a politician or a bean-counter, stay off the Jumbotron or you'll it's guaranteed you'll get boo'd.

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/s...years-1.4513360

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#2370 exc911ence

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 12:20 PM

Reports on Twitter that his video recorded welcome played in Vancouver at the Canada game was loudly boo’d... Keith Baldrey was commenting on it and saying it took Christy Clark to just before the ‘17 election to receive that

 

Could it just be the small matter that Clark was actually voted in by the people whereas Horgan was not?


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#2371 Mike K.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:47 AM

The Manitoba NDP entered into lucrative union labour contracts, mismanaged the budget and saw the provincial credit rating drop. Now the present-day Progressive Conservatives are forced to clean up the mess: https://nationalpost...ts-about-to-end

In a gist, Manitoba’s unionized labour lay-off protectection enacted by the NDP ends in a few months and the current government won’t be wasting any time trying to bring balance back to provincial coffers. This means lay-offs are on the horizon, but their number will be small and the big focus will be on a hiring freeze (which BC had for quite a while under the Liberals).

While we have no such clause here, BC’s NDP has mandated that provincial construction contracts can only go to outfits with unionized staff. Many call that an overreach and construction companies have already found loopholes to play the game but not actually achieve the goals the government believes will be achieved by requiring unionized labour.

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#2372 rjag

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:51 AM


While we have no such clause here, BC’s NDP has mandated that provincial construction contracts can only go to outfits with unionized staff. Many call that an overreach and construction companies have already found loopholes to play the game but not actually achieve the goals the government believes will be achieved by requiring unionized labour.

 

And only certain unions, some other unions are shut out along with private companies



#2373 Mike K.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 10:07 AM

Yes!

How that actually passes muster is beyond me. How is that “not” favouritism?

And speaking of which, how is Andrew Scheer being attacked by a union outfit representing 15,000 journalists that calls itself his “worst nightmare” not an overreach and a threat to democracy, when the union representing JOURNALISTS is openly stating that it is working to prevent him from winning the next election? Can you imagine if Exxon Mobil decided to label itself Trudeau’s “worst nightmare?”

Have a look for yourself: https://youtu.be/vSW0O6rHA8U
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#2374 rjag

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

Yes!

How that actually passes muster is beyond me. How is that “not” favouritism?

And speaking of which, how is Andrew Scheer being attacked by a union outfit representing 15,000 journalists that calls itself his “worst nightmare” not an overreach and a threat to democracy, when the union representing JOURNALISTS is openly stating that it is working to prevent him from winning the next election? Can you imagine if Exxon Mobil decided to label itself Trudeau’s “worst nightmare?”

Have a look for yourself: https://youtu.be/vSW0O6rHA8U

 

Didnt the Liberals just bribe the media with a $600million fund to save the media? How is that not a conflict of interest? How much will you apply for Mike?


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#2375 Mike K.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 12:11 PM

And not only that, but in an election year, and the lucky chosen recipients will be selected via a secretive panel.

The Mikes of the world need not apply, lol.

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#2376 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 12:19 PM

Didnt the Liberals just bribe the media with a $600million fund to save the media? How is that not a conflict of interest? How much will you apply for Mike?

 

other than rebel media i see no publishers lining up to reject the bailout.

 

a very small handful of reporters have said it should be rejected.

 

Jen Gerson is a freelance journalist based in Calgary. She is a contributing editor at Maclean’s, journalist-in-residence at the University of Calgary’s Faculty of Law and co-host of the Canadian politics podcast OPPO.

 

https://www.washingt...ould-reject-it/

 

Canada’s media bailout will weaken trust in journalism. We should reject it.


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#2377 rjag

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:53 PM

other than rebel media i see no publishers lining up to reject the bailout.

 

a very small handful of reporters have said it should be rejected.

 

 

 

Yup because they arent the ones writing the cheques but cashing the cheques...big difference



#2378 LJ

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 08:08 PM

Maybe we can get this party to start up in BC.

 

https://www.islamico...Policy_324.html

 

But if you have any concerns about their stated policies keep it to yourself or you will be labeled islamaphobic and be penalized by law.


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#2379 North Shore

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:31 PM

The Manitoba NDP entered into lucrative union labour contracts, mismanaged the budget and saw the provincial credit rating drop. Now the present-day Progressive Conservatives are forced to clean up the mess: https://nationalpost...ts-about-to-end
In a gist, Manitoba’s unionized labour lay-off protectection enacted by the NDP ends in a few months and the current government won’t be wasting any time trying to bring balance back to provincial coffers. This means lay-offs are on the horizon, but their number will be small and the big focus will be on a hiring freeze (which BC had for quite a while under the Liberals).


I’m one of those affected civil servants - privatized in the name of deficit/debt reduction...except I really don’t see how it’s going to save the taxpayers money. Most of my coworkers are going to the private contractor for the same salary and roughly the same benefits and pension ( those that aren’t will need to be replaced, with the attendant costs) the planes still need the same maintenance and fuel; the only thing that is extra is the profit for the (large, multi-national) company that has picked up the contract. I’ll believe the savings when I see an honest accounting of them....
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#2380 Mike K.

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 10:37 AM

In your case market rates for what you do are market rates for what you do, and most employees aren’t privy to company finances nor should they be. But when a province has (as just one example) a massive team of translators with overlapping duties and not enough work for them but it can’t lay them off due to a contract guaranteeing that employment, something’s not right.

Privatization never gets heralded when it’s done right but it’s pointed to ad hominem when it doesn’t go right. Things can always go wrong but that doesn’t mean every single instance will go wrong. That being said, the province doesn’t necessarily calculate immediate savings as a determinant for financially-based decisions. It would have looked at a contract spanning a longer period. It would have also looked at opportunities to one day entertain bids from multiple organizations willing to provide the service it needs at the most competitive price and best outcome for the taxpayer.

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