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#6241 spanky123

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 10:06 AM

The cheapest Tesla in Canada is $60,000. No other electrics at $36,000 (your 60% figure).

Leaf and Bolt under $40k but they hardly compare to Tesla.

 

Cheapest Tesla is $62,000. Ionic is $44,999 which qualifies for an $8K rebate. 


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#6242 Mike K.

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 10:39 AM

At $55k the governments considers the vehicle to be a luxury purchase.

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 01:55 PM

Some of Canada’s biggest automakers say the federal government needs to be more ambitious and co-ordinated in its approach to electric vehicle charging or it won’t get as many people into battery-powered cars as it wants to by the end of this decade.

The Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers Association, which represents Ford, General Motors and Stellantis, is issuing a list of recommendations to Ottawa today warning that EV adoption isn’t going to happen if Canadians don’t have confidence in the network of charging stations available.

https://www.cheknews...argets-1029690/

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#6244 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 03:04 PM

Should be sub 20k options easy. They would fly off the shelves too. The barriers to entry are high for startups with certification. This is why you see so many electric bikes.

BYD is doing a hell of a job of selling electric cars. We will see if they are successful when moving into the North America market.


China: BYD Increased Plug-In Car Sales In February 2022 By 764%

The company exceeded 180,000 plug-ins sold within just two months of 2022.


https://insideevs.co...bruary2022/amp/

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#6245 dasmo

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 03:22 PM

BYD is doing a hell of a job of selling electric cars. We will see if they are successful when moving into the North America market.


China: BYD Increased Plug-In Car Sales In February 2022 By 764%

The company exceeded 180,000 plug-ins sold within just two months of 2022.


https://insideevs.co...bruary2022/amp/

That is impressive. But I want this for $16k No sign and a blank paint job. 

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:09 PM

Elon Musk Reveals Tesla Cybertruck Is Sold Out Until 2027

 

After several delays, the Cybertruck is currently not expected to begin deliveries until late 2023 or early 2024. And now, in a new interview, Elon Musk says Tesla has enough Cybertruck reservations to fill 3 years of production. This pushes deliveries for new reservations as far out as 2027.
 


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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:12 PM

I just don’t know how that’s good for business. Surely there’s a better way, or maybe this is just another marketing gimmick since all he’s basing that on is a $100 refundable down payment. How many people are going to run when the price tag is $130k?

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#6248 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:16 PM

I just don’t know how that’s good for business. Surely there’s a better way, or maybe this is just another marketing gimmick since all he’s basing that on is a $100 refundable down payment. How many people are going to run when the price tag is $130k?

 

O ye, of little faith.  Tesla has never produced a single vehicle that isn't spoken for (sold) before it's built.  No other mass-production car company has ever done that.  In the past 100+ years.


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#6249 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:20 PM

I just don’t know how that’s good for business. Surely there’s a better way

 

To produce a brand new vehicle?  Legacy Auto takes 7-12 years to bring a completely new model to market.



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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:33 PM

Well technically, isn’t every (non custom) produced vehicle sold to an intermediary that leases the vehicle stock to a dealership?

I think a banker once told me that the banks own the inventory once it leaves the plant, if the car id not a custom order.

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#6251 dasmo

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:34 PM

Scarcity is a tool of marketing. 



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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:39 PM

I wonder how much to change a headlight. I broke a handle on our Mazda in the cold of the ice crystal canonnade pulling on a frozen door. I was quoted $420 to replace. I ordered on replacement on ebay and might just use youtube and suffer through it myself. 



#6253 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 May 2022 - 06:40 PM

Well technically, isn’t every (non custom) produced vehicle sold to an intermediary that leases the vehicle stock to a dealership?

I think a banker once told me that the banks own the inventory once it leaves the plant, if the car id not a custom order.


A car on the lot is not with the final owner. So it’s costing someone money. Tesla has never had a car parked on a lot.
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Posted 16 May 2022 - 05:25 AM

Volkswagen US dealers have been caught off guard by the automaker's plans to revive the Scout nameplate for an electric pickup and SUV.

 

Since Volkswagen Group did not offer details on how it intends to retail the new EVs, dealers are wondering whether the automaker might be looking to adopt Tesla's direct-sales model for Scout vehicles or set up new franchises that would bypass them. 

 

VW Group did say it would build a "separate, independent company" to resurrect the Scout name, which it acquired last year after purchasing truck maker Navistar. The first prototypes are expected to debut next year with production to follow in 2026. The company did not offer any information regarding the production location of the new Scout electric vehicles.

 

The lack of information from Wolfsburg has left some VW dealers angry and shocked, Automotive News reports. One dealer told the publication, on condition of anonymity, that they felt VW might go with direct sales for the Scout brand. 

 

On May 13, VW of America sales and marketing boss Andrew Savvas told the brand's 650 dealers in a letter that Scout will be an independent brand within the group and that they will have no claim on its products. The letter obviously did not do much to calm dealers down. 

 

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VW Group CFO Arno Antlitz said that Scout "will be a separate unit and brand within the Volkswagen Group to be managed independently. This aligns with the new group steering model—small units that act agilely and have access to our tech platforms to leverage synergies." No executives for the new unit and brand have been announced.

 

https://insideevs.co...demand-answers/


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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:06 AM

President Joe Biden’s climate czar John Kerry said, "We have to transition to electric vehicles about 20X faster," during the Net Zero Delivery Summit in London, England on 5/12/2022.

 

VIDEO: https://youtu.be/nPTv5s1tIi4



#6256 Mike K.

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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:14 AM

How much would we reduce carbon emissions if we just outlawed the production of ketchup?
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#6257 dasmo

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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:16 AM

Or the space program? 



#6258 Matt R.

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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:28 AM

Or private jets and yachts?

#6259 tommy

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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:44 AM

How much would we reduce carbon emissions if we just outlawed the production of ketchup?

none...they would simply switch to producing catsup!



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Posted 18 May 2022 - 10:53 AM

Or the space program?  

 

The space program uses lots per launch, but it's a tiny fraction of the daily fuel usage in the global airline industry.


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