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#41 G-Man

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:14 PM

Well the one I link in the post sure shows it as in Fairfield. If it goes through the alley that might be even more ridiculous!!!


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:16 PM

There is this which also seems to show it in Fairfield:

 

http://www.victoria....- Fairfield.pdf


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:28 PM

Sorry, I meant Fort and Blanshard, not Fort and Quadra.

I found a variation on the City’s website! Here is the old map:

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See the 'cut out' for the SE corner of Fort and Blanshard? Compare it to this current map:

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Fairfield has done a Vladimir Putin on Downtown!!

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:10 PM

OMG they did! The border should be pushed back not into downtown. It does make sense now though when I think of the last time I was in that Starbucks the clerk was acting a bit funny and so I asked him where he was from and he said that he lived downtown but his sandals were clear Fairfield issue Birkenstocks.


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 03:44 PM

I love how our primarily single family home neighbourhoods are creeping their borders IN to town, not the other way around.

The borders should reflect the general community and built-form of the area and be updated every 4-8 years or so.  Downtown should be pushing outward as the area becomes more urban.


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#46 G-Man

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 07:23 PM

Agree completely and my post basically says that though in a very long winded way.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:50 PM

 

I love how our primarily single family home neighbourhoods are creeping their borders IN to town, not the other way around.

 

 

Downtown should be pushing outward as the area becomes more urban.

 

Yeah, but isn't that the whole point? To prevent downtown from pushing outward? And also to chip away at downtown wherever possible?

 

Why would anyone bother to strictly define and constrain downtown in the first place? Because they absolutely do not want downtown-style development and atmosphere to extend any further. Because downtown is bad.

 

Meanwhile, it's perfectly acceptable and even desirable for neighbourhood-style development and atmosphere to intrude into downtown. Because downtown is bad.

 

And meanwhile it's also perfectly acceptable and even desirable to battle and resist downtown-style development and atmosphere within the heart of downtown itself! Because downtown is bad.

 

Are we seeing a pattern?



#48 Rob Randall

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:53 PM

I assume changing a neighbourhood boundary is a serious issue with big financial implications on the property owner. Therefore, I assume the Starbucks anomaly is a mapmaking error.


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 03:48 PM

I can't imagine that it cost property owners anything and most are likely not even aware which neighbourhood they are in if they are on the border. Does the owner of Chorizo & Co think that they are trying to trend set in Fairfield?

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#50 Rob Randall

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 04:10 PM

But if you're a building owner and suddenly your building goes from Downtown to Fairfield--that has a profound impact on your property value as far as what you are allowed to build on the site, OCP and which community association you consult with.


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 04:49 PM

A fair point but one would hope that planning staff at least try to make bordering areas cohesive in zoning. I guess maybe not?

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:02 PM

New post up on the Selkirk Waterfront Project and why in my opinion, it came close to being great and yet fell short. 

 

http://sidewalkingvi...of-perfect.html


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Posted 20 July 2016 - 06:50 AM

New post up on the Selkirk Waterfront Project and why in my opinion, it came close to being great and yet fell short. 

 

http://sidewalkingvi...of-perfect.html

 

It was never going to have enough people living in it to be significant.


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Posted 20 July 2016 - 08:04 AM

Good post - I agree.

 

I'm not sure it will ever happen but if the David Foster Way ever made its way to Selkirk on the East side of the gorge, it would create an amazing pedestrian route between the JSB and the Trestle.

 

Right now you have to go out of your way to get to Selkirk. Unless you want to row or go to Glo, what reason would you go there? Everything else is only open M-F business hours.


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#55 G-Man

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 09:48 AM

It was never going to have enough people living in it to be significant.

No I agree but there are hundreds if not a thousand or two within an 800 metre radius of Selkirk. If it had been billed as the urban node for the gorge area it could be much more like Cook Street Village rather than its own enclave. 


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#56 G-Man

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

Good post - I agree.

 

I'm not sure it will ever happen but if the David Foster Way ever made its way to Selkirk on the East side of the gorge, it would create an amazing pedestrian route between the JSB and the Trestle.

 

Right now you have to go out of your way to get to Selkirk. Unless you want to row or go to Glo, what reason would you go there? Everything else is only open M-F business hours.

 

There certainly is not a lot of reason to go there if you don't want to do one of those things. I would hope that a renamed harbour front walkway eventually makes it here. The bridge across Rock Bay will be a good start.

 

It is interesting that you have a place like Prima Strada Pizza and they chose a Rock Bay industrial location over one right in Selkirk. (Assuming one would have been available. Still this location is 50 - 80 metres from Selkirk but it is miles away in feel.  


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#57 Bingo

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 10:28 AM

There certainly is not a lot of reason to go there if you don't want to do one of those things. I would hope that a renamed harbour front walkway eventually makes it here.

The bridge across Rock Bay will be a good start.

 

They could save some money and maintain a piece of heritage in the process if they put the "blue bridge" onto a barge and floated it down to Rock Bay.



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 07:18 PM

I have a new post up on the Paper Box Arcade one of my favourite urban oases in the city!

 

http://sidewalkingvi...box-arcade.html


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#59 Jill

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 07:34 PM

Mine too! My sister's first apartment was in that building.



#60 Rob Randall

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 09:51 AM

Sorry, I forgot about this old photo I took of the alley back circa 1988 before Williams rehabbed it. You're welcome to use it. I have another photo somewhere of the parking area but that has not changed very much I don't think.

 

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