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The Haro
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road
Municipality: Saanich
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 4
Condo units: 86 (1BR, 2BR, sub-penthouse, penthouse)
Sales status: pre-sales
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[Saanich] 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road | Condos; commercial | 4, 4 and 4-storeys | Proposed


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#21 Sparky

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 03:26 PM

“There is a grave concern about traffic, noise, speeding and growing congestion on Cordova Bay Road,” longtime resident Jessica Ball told council.

Ball and several other residents conveyed concern to council about the smallest of the developments — a proposal to put 25 condos at 986 and 990 Doumac Ave., now occupied by two 1950s houses.

The project’s proposed height of four storeys — down from five — is “excessive,” said resident Sharon Darroch. “I am concerned where the atmosphere of the village is going.”

 

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.FNHILpTk.dpuf

 

 

Jeepers Creepers, I guess we should build a wall around Cordova Bay.

 

This development will replace two crappy rental houses. I wonder where Jessica Ball and Sharon Darroch live? 

 

Here is what's there now. 

 

https://www.google.c...!8i6656!6m1!1e1


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#22 Nparker

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 08:02 AM

More "heightophobia", but I think this may be the first time a dead artist has been used to justify the fears

...“While most residents of Cordova Bay agree that there is a need for a village, with residences and commercial facilities, and some additional residential housing in the area, few want a dense development with imposing structures, particularly so close to Cordova Bay Road,...the proposal for the plaza site would see buildings almost 50 feet high next to Cordova Bay Road, too high for “an historic low-scale community where Emily Carr came to paint.”...


- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.pYCsN7jj.dpuf


Edited by Nparker, 19 February 2017 - 08:03 AM.

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#23 AllseeingEye

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:03 AM

/\....I had the exact same thought when I read this article this morning..."Emily Carr? WTF does E-M have to do with this?? She's dead. She won't care". FFS  they're not talking about parking a mega-monolith 100-story edifice here but replacing two s****y 60 year old bungalows and a crappy tawdry run down grocery that way under-serves the current population of the area...


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#24 Sparky

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 01:45 PM

An over-arching plan for traffic management is required, he said, given the shopping centre alone would have 320 parking spaces, the majority underground, and drivers will rely on Doumac Avenue for access.

 

I wonder what his vision is for an "over-arching" plan for traffic management?

 

There is one main road...and that main road is mainly used as a short cut from Gordon Head to Sidney.



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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:00 PM

I never have reason to stop in the area when passing through, there just isn't anything appealing. Some new developments mean change, but they can also inject life into an otherwise sleepy-looking area. The protests so far are reminding me over the opposition to the 5-floor project in Cook Street Village that was recently approved.


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#26 aastra

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:06 PM

Sure not thrilled with that rendering. Seems like it has no relationship with the street at all.



#27 johnk

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 06:30 PM

Mrs johnk mused about moving there when its time to let go of the SFH. My objection was I did not detect any sense of community. To me its a bunch of housing strung along a single road, one way in and out, with no core.
IMO the proposals look good. They could add some density, a few more amenities and a sense of being somewhere.
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#28 Bingo

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:02 PM

Cordova Bay used to be somebody back in the day when the railway ran through and folks picniced at the beach and danced on Saturday night at McMorran's. 

But the community became lost as a destination when Fable Cottage left for Denman Island in 1993.

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#29 Kilo95

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 08:04 PM

Don't have any serious qualms about the proposal for the 2 lots neighbouring the shopping mall on Doumac, currently occupied by two small rental properties with significantly overgrown shrubbery and bushes all around them. If only they would do something with that property on the corner, that they've been remediating for the past 20-odd years after the gas station left.

 

The shopping plaza has long been due for an upgrade, so I welcome the redevelopment of that property. I'm not sure if a grocery store of that size (17,000 sq ft) will really be sustainable, but who really knows. Perhaps it'll be more of an "if you build it, they will come" type of thinking. 

 

I was initially concerned that perhaps this would add significant traffic to the area, but I suppose when they built the Ridge and the condos up there, there wasn't any drastic increase in vehicles on the road. 


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#30 Sparky

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:06 AM

The developer pulled out of the public hearing last night at the last minute.

 

The NIMBY's had gathered up a head of steam and had nothing better to do but storm the municipal hall en mass.



#31 Mike K.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:57 AM

For real?

Was this this for the commercial project or Duomac?

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#32 AllseeingEye

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 08:21 AM

Typical. I wonder now how long that crappy Tru-Value will hang about? That place should've been bulldozed 15 years ago.....


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#33 Kilo95

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:41 AM

For real?

Was this this for the commercial project or Duomac?

 

This was for the two lots on Doumac, the commercial project hasn't gotten to the hearing stage yet. Article in the TC today, as per the developer they pulled out in order to address and speak with residents about some of their concerns. 

 

http://www.timescolo...nute-1.10208795



#34 aastra

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:56 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.


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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:07 AM

This statement says it all.... A lot of these residents can't, won't and don't want change. 1998 was almost 20 years ago....

"The community is also concerned about a larger development immediately south of Doumac, Millard said, where the Tru Value shopping plaza at 5124 Cordova Bay Rd. is zoned for 88 condos atop ground-floor retail and commercial development. That would require council’s approval because the original development application in 1998 was for only 16 condos."
See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.KHDnHa91.dpuf

#36 AllseeingEye

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:09 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.

Are you NUTS? Way too much change...too much, and far too ffffffffffffast! ................Never mind that the neighborhood has barely changed since I used Cordova Bay Rd as my "back door escape" route to drive home to Gordon Head in the wee wee hours from the long defunct "Thatch" nightclub in Royal Oak....in 1980.


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#37 3isenough

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:20 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.


Cadboro Bay, Estevan Village, Oak Bay Village, Cook Street Village... All very nice, successful little destination like (families, couples, students etc) will gather to go for coffee, a muffin or what have you. There are newer condo developments of this size with some retail on the ground floor in those areas mixed in with the SFDs. As far as the grocery store development, I do think it will work, living in the area and having children that go to school in the area it would be much more convenient to be able to stop in at a store right there rather than Broadmead, Royal Oak or Keating. Red Barn is great for some things (fruit/veg) but I don't think the majority of families do their regular grocery shops there.

#38 Bingo

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:25 AM

Cordova needs to re-invent themselves by filming a major motion picture in the community...a movie like "They Came to Cordova"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFc_Dx6to0



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Posted 11 April 2017 - 07:28 AM

Cordova Bay Plaza is nearly empty now that main tenant Tru Value Foods has closed, but replacement plans for the shopping centre have prompted a long list of concerns from the Cordova Bay Association for Community Affairs.

 

In a letter to the Saanich planning department, the group rejects the project, describing it as too urban and out of scale and character for what should be a community focal point in the beachside area.

 

“It doesn’t have a village appeal,” said association president Larry Gontovnick. The group contends the project looks above grade at Cordova Bay Road, making four storeys seem more like five, has inadequate public meeting space and blank exterior walls, and overpowers existing nearby housing.

 

“The relationship of the proposed buildings to the neighbouring properties and to our main street, Cordova Bay Road, is troubling,” the letter said.

 

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.yAn2fDvD.dpuf


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:29 AM

We like going to the Beach House for lunch on the terraces but there's nothing else to hold us for awhile other than a walk on the beach. IMO the area needs some sort of core with meeting places like a pub or coffee shop.
Caddy Bay has a good little market, a wine store, a good neighbourhood pub and a Starbucks to grab a coffee outside or take down to the beach. These amenities make it attractive to us but there's nothing like that in CB.
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