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The Haro
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road
Municipality: Saanich
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 4
Condo units: 86 (1BR, 2BR, sub-penthouse, penthouse)
Sales status: pre-sales
The Haro is a mixed-used residential and retail community situated along the 5100-block of Cordova Bay Road in... (view full profile)
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[Saanich] 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road | Condos; commercial | 4, 4 and 4-storeys | Under construction


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#21 Nparker

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 08:02 AM

More "heightophobia", but I think this may be the first time a dead artist has been used to justify the fears

...“While most residents of Cordova Bay agree that there is a need for a village, with residences and commercial facilities, and some additional residential housing in the area, few want a dense development with imposing structures, particularly so close to Cordova Bay Road,...the proposal for the plaza site would see buildings almost 50 feet high next to Cordova Bay Road, too high for “an historic low-scale community where Emily Carr came to paint.”...


- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.pYCsN7jj.dpuf


Edited by Nparker, 19 February 2017 - 08:03 AM.

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#22 AllseeingEye

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:03 AM

/\....I had the exact same thought when I read this article this morning..."Emily Carr? WTF does E-M have to do with this?? She's dead. She won't care". FFS  they're not talking about parking a mega-monolith 100-story edifice here but replacing two s****y 60 year old bungalows and a crappy tawdry run down grocery that way under-serves the current population of the area...


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#23 grantpalin

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:00 PM

I never have reason to stop in the area when passing through, there just isn't anything appealing. Some new developments mean change, but they can also inject life into an otherwise sleepy-looking area. The protests so far are reminding me over the opposition to the 5-floor project in Cook Street Village that was recently approved.


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#24 aastra

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:06 PM

Sure not thrilled with that rendering. Seems like it has no relationship with the street at all.



#25 johnk

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 06:30 PM

Mrs johnk mused about moving there when its time to let go of the SFH. My objection was I did not detect any sense of community. To me its a bunch of housing strung along a single road, one way in and out, with no core.
IMO the proposals look good. They could add some density, a few more amenities and a sense of being somewhere.
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#26 Bingo

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:02 PM

Cordova Bay used to be somebody back in the day when the railway ran through and folks picniced at the beach and danced on Saturday night at McMorran's. 

But the community became lost as a destination when Fable Cottage left for Denman Island in 1993.

http://unknownvictor...ds-of-time.html



#27 Sparky

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:06 AM

The developer pulled out of the public hearing last night at the last minute.

 

The NIMBY's had gathered up a head of steam and had nothing better to do but storm the municipal hall en mass.



#28 Mike K.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 06:57 AM

For real?

Was this this for the commercial project or Duomac?

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#29 AllseeingEye

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 08:21 AM

Typical. I wonder now how long that crappy Tru-Value will hang about? That place should've been bulldozed 15 years ago.....


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#30 aastra

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:56 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.


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#31 AllseeingEye

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:09 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.

Are you NUTS? Way too much change...too much, and far too ffffffffffffast! ................Never mind that the neighborhood has barely changed since I used Cordova Bay Rd as my "back door escape" route to drive home to Gordon Head in the wee wee hours from the long defunct "Thatch" nightclub in Royal Oak....in 1980.


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#32 3isenough

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:20 AM

That small project looks terrific. Exactly the sort of small apartment building that you should want in a neighbourhood like Cordova Bay.


Cadboro Bay, Estevan Village, Oak Bay Village, Cook Street Village... All very nice, successful little destination like (families, couples, students etc) will gather to go for coffee, a muffin or what have you. There are newer condo developments of this size with some retail on the ground floor in those areas mixed in with the SFDs. As far as the grocery store development, I do think it will work, living in the area and having children that go to school in the area it would be much more convenient to be able to stop in at a store right there rather than Broadmead, Royal Oak or Keating. Red Barn is great for some things (fruit/veg) but I don't think the majority of families do their regular grocery shops there.

#33 Bingo

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 10:25 AM

Cordova needs to re-invent themselves by filming a major motion picture in the community...a movie like "They Came to Cordova"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFc_Dx6to0



#34 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 07:28 AM

Cordova Bay Plaza is nearly empty now that main tenant Tru Value Foods has closed, but replacement plans for the shopping centre have prompted a long list of concerns from the Cordova Bay Association for Community Affairs.

 

In a letter to the Saanich planning department, the group rejects the project, describing it as too urban and out of scale and character for what should be a community focal point in the beachside area.

 

“It doesn’t have a village appeal,” said association president Larry Gontovnick. The group contends the project looks above grade at Cordova Bay Road, making four storeys seem more like five, has inadequate public meeting space and blank exterior walls, and overpowers existing nearby housing.

 

“The relationship of the proposed buildings to the neighbouring properties and to our main street, Cordova Bay Road, is troubling,” the letter said.

 

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.yAn2fDvD.dpuf


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#35 johnk

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:29 AM

We like going to the Beach House for lunch on the terraces but there's nothing else to hold us for awhile other than a walk on the beach. IMO the area needs some sort of core with meeting places like a pub or coffee shop.
Caddy Bay has a good little market, a wine store, a good neighbourhood pub and a Starbucks to grab a coffee outside or take down to the beach. These amenities make it attractive to us but there's nothing like that in CB.
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#36 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:56 AM

Is the gas station site just sitting out the required however many years of fallow?  It seems to me there has to be a better way to deal with these.


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#37 Cassidy

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 11:06 AM

It seems to me that the gas station lot has been sitting there a good many years longer than a typical gas station tear-down lot normally has to sit empty.


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#38 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 11:15 AM

The one at Shelbourne and McKenzie and the tiny lot at Uptown are also long-timers.


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#39 G-Man

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 12:04 PM

The pollution under the gas station in Cordova Bay is much worse than just a normal remediation.
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#40 thundergun

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 12:08 PM

There's another one ~500m North across from Cordova Bay Elementary @ Fenn Ave. as well that's been idle for a looong time.



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