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[Mike K.]

There’s an entire corporate industry mass sponsoring people now, I think.

I’ll get a call every month or two, asking if I know anyone who would sell an entire apartment building, or rent an entire rental building, to such an agency for its foreign workers/visa holders/tourists.

[dasmo]

Yah. Like I keep brining up, one of the biggest tech firms in Canada is all about recruiting Indian students to "study" in Canada. 

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[Victoria Watcher]

[Tony]

Over 1, 950 000 student visas were issued from 2022 to 2024. Will a large number of these student return home after their studies?

[Mike K.]

There is no way these individuals could have all been vetted properly. Think of how long it takes to receive any government service that requires an application to be processed. And they processed 1.95 million people in two years? That’s unfathomable.

[Barrister]

No wonder the Americans are wondering about our immigration security.

[Tony]

USA provides 370,000 to 400,000 student visas each year.......... no way there is major vetting there either but some requirements are necessary for student visas in Canada or USA.

 

The 1,950,000 number is visas issued in Canada over 3 years. How many actually came? How many will go back? Do we know what percent of student visa holders actually legally stay in Canada. How many move back home or move on including to the USA after completing their studies?

How many student visa holders leave Canada each year? How many do not leave as required upon expiration of their Visa?

 

We know that just on study permits, there are 766,000 expiring by the end of December 2025.

 

They are expected to leave as is required.  the feds will be working with the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) to "investigate and prosecute those who violate immigration law."

[lanforod]

The majority of these study permits in Canada are not higher education students by the way. I believe that accounts for about 40% of the numbers in Canada.

The US does not seem to have such high numbers for short term programs. They’ve about 1.1m international students - in higher ed. Also, more than half of theirs are graduate students. Definitely seem to be focusing more on quality over quantity.

Edited by lanforod, 01 December 2024 - 02:54 PM.

[dasmo]

Ya. There are a lot of ESL schools kicking around.

[Victoria Watcher]

[Tony]

Number games.

 

Refugee claims made in 2015 was 7120 claims. Pending claims 9,999  a 140% of the number of pending vs claims made in that year.

 

Estimated  refugee claims made in 2024 (pro rated on January to October numbers )  171,295 833. Pending claims 260,142 a 151% of the number of pending vs claims made in that year.

 

Refugee claim increase from 7120 in 2015 to 171,295 833 in 2024 an increase of 24 times.

 

About  10% of refugee claims are made by illegal border crossings. About 90% of refugee claims are made at ports of entry.

[lanforod]

Put some visa requirements back in, and those claim numbers will drop.

[Tony]

 146,828 refugee claims made in January to October 2024.

 

Only  2,500 refugee claims were made by people from countries where no visa is required by any person to enter Canada.

 

Of the 146,828 refugee claims made these are the number processed to the end of October 2024

 

Accepted 33,583

 

Rejected 8,172

Abandoned 6,830

Withdrawn 4,400  Sum = 19,377

Edited by Tony, 04 December 2024 - 09:46 AM.

[lanforod]

It helped that they put visa requirements back on Mexico... and that  change was made specifically for this reason.

https://www.canada.c...-to-canada.html

 

Maybe other countries need more stringent visa requirements. Especially India.

Edited by lanforod, 04 December 2024 - 10:04 AM.

[Tony]

India, Bangladesh and Mexico were the counties of origin of the top three number of  with claims.

[lanforod]

You even read the Canadian government post I linked there?

 

 

 

As of February 29, 2024, at 11:30 p.m. Eastern time, Mexican citizens who hold a valid US non-immigrant visa or have held a Canadian visa in the past 10 years and are travelling by air on a Mexican passport will be able to apply for an electronic travel authorization (eTA). With the high number of Mexican citizens currently holding US visas, the majority will continue to enjoy visa-free travel to Canada. Those who do not meet these conditions will need to apply for a Canadian visitor visa. This responds to an increase in asylum claims made by Mexican citizens that are refused, withdrawn or abandoned. It is an important step to preserve mobility for hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens, while also ensuring the sound management of our immigration and asylum systems.

 

Like I said, make the visa requirements more stringent.

[Victoria Watcher]

On the Brink: Canada’s pillars of immigration are crumbling

 

https://www.theglobe...-are-crumbling/

 

 

All of those pillars have crumbled in the past couple of years, as the federal Liberals ramped up permanent-resident admissions and, even more significantly, allowed hundreds of thousands of temporary residents to enter the country. The idea was to alleviate what the federal government saw as labour shortages, but the unprecedented change came as housing markets were under unprecedented strain.

The results were predictable (although perhaps not to the federal cabinet). The added weight of newcomers further destabilized housing markets, driving up rents in major urban centres – with temporary residents themselves bearing much of the resulting pain.

The federal Liberals have been forced to roll back many of their recent changes to the immigration system. Most notably, Ottawa now plans to massively reduce the number of temporary migrants by the end of 2026. After several years of record growth, Canada’s population is projected to decline in 2025 and 2026, underscoring the magnitude of the Liberals’ about-face on immigration.

 

[...]

 

One of the biggest pressure points is the refugee claim system. There have been backlogs for years, but they have soared to dangerous levels under the Liberals, with 260,142 cases outstanding at the end of October. Even in the (impossible) event that no new refugee claims were made, it would take nearly three years to eliminate that backlog. The incentive to file a flimsy claim – and remain in Canada for years waiting for it to be heard – is obvious.

 

[...]

 

Those are big problems, and the federal government is responding, even if that response may be late and insufficient.

But there are problems of Ottawa’s own making that threaten to further undermine the immigration system. One is the Liberals’ continued insistence on using immigration to micromanage the labour market. That was the foundation of the government’s error on the immigration file in the postpandemic years: buying into the pitch from business lobbies that huge numbers of temporary migrants were needed to close a massive labour shortage.

 

That same interventionist mindset is still at work, corroding the points-based system for permanent residents. Rather than simply aim to bring in the highest-skilled migrants, the Liberals have whittled down the points system to instead grant permanent residency to less qualified candidates who can fill perceived skills gaps. And then there is the bigger threat to the points system of using it as a vehicle to allow large numbers of international students to remain in Canada, even though they would not have otherwise qualified.

The federal Liberals’ mistakes on immigration have pushed Canada’s once-enviable system to the brink. And their failure to learn from their mistakes threatens to push it even further.

 

 

 

https://archive.is/B...2859.0-2871.183

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 December 2024 - 04:27 AM.

[dasmo]

So no doctors in there?

[Matt R.]

While making it impossible for a certain ethnic group, they are making it even easier for some other targeted groups.

Who will you see behind the till at Tim Hortons in a couple of years, although I won’t be surprised the see the cons halt this as well.

Are there any programs open that I can use to recruit international workers?

Yes, see below

Francophone Mobility Program: This program works with Francophone countries, such as Morocco, Tunisia, and other African nations. It includes all NOC codes, is a two-year closed work permit, and does not require an LMIA. There is also an option to bring the applicant’s partner. 

Canada-Colombia and Canada-Peru Free Trade Agreements: These agreements provide pathways to Canada for chefs from Colombia and Peru. As with the Francophone Mobility Program, this is a closed, two-year work permit that does not require an LMIA.

[LJ]

Is there a shortage of Peruvian chefs in Canada?