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[spanky123]

The trick might be to have your Bugatti lead the way on your profile picture.

 

Don't know if that will do it. Was reading an article in the Economist about today's VIPs and a Bugatti wouldn't get you past first base with that crowd.

[Redd42]

Except that by law consent can be withdrawn at any time. Just because you agreed to it in advance doesn't mean that it is permitted when you actually get down to it. That is probably why Mike's bud asked every 5 minutes!

 

It was Rob's bud, not Mike's. And I as a female, am very glad that is so. I've withdrawn consent when I didn't like the way things were going. Luckily dude didn't react badly and I was able to remove myself safely from the situation. Another dude might not have taken the retraction so well. Which is why women will go through with something they might not want just not to have to risk a bad reaction from the male.

[spanky123]

^ Not disagreeing with you at all or suggesting that the law should be changed. Just stating why people ask more than once.

[Victoria Watcher]

It was Rob's bud, not Mike's. And I as a female, am very glad that is so. I've withdrawn consent when I didn't like the way things were going. Luckily dude didn't react badly and I was able to remove myself safely from the situation. Another dude might not have taken the retraction so well. Which is why women will go through with something they might not want just not to have to risk a bad reaction from the male.

well plus females are on average nearly 10x more neurotic than men. lot of shifting minds.

[Mike K.]

I’d be pretty shifty around Rob’s bud, too!

[Rob Randall]

well plus females are on average nearly 10x more neurotic than men. lot of shifting minds.

 

Maybe it's from listening to too many murder podcasts but some of the single women I know talk about upcoming Tinder dates and how perhaps the guy will end up being the man of their dreams or maybe he'll chop them up and put them in a freezer and of course they're joking but also kinda not.

[Victoria Watcher]

yes single women listen to lots of murder podcasts.

I think that females waiting for the perfect tinder date to become the long term man are likely out of luck.

by the very virtue of the fact where they are going to for love - and the limited effort they are putting in - leaves them and the guys they date there near the bottom of the barrel.

i’m just following odds that’s all.

I know lots of people going on tinder dates. I know so few that are quality, quality top-10 people.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 June 2021 - 03:13 PM.

[Mike K.]

Maybe it's from listening to too many murder podcasts but some of the single women I know talk about upcoming Tinder dates and how perhaps the guy will end up being the man of their dreams or maybe he'll chop them up and put them in a freezer and of course they're joking but also kinda not.

It’s the 2021 version of a Vegas shotgun wedding.

[Victoria Watcher]

A Canadian author named Richard Cooper takes on the current dating scene and comes out with lots of opinions that are unpopular with leftist women.

But agreed with by almost everyone else.

https://craftfactory...e-single-moms-2

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 June 2021 - 03:51 PM.

[Belleprincess]

A Canadian author named Richard Cooper takes on the current dating scene and comes out with lots of opinions that are unpopular with leftist women.
But agreed with by almost everyone else.

https://craftfactory...e-single-moms-2

That idiot sounds like a caveman

[Victoria Watcher]

except he speaks hard truth.

not the truth sold to you by the “you can be anything” brigade.

just the truth the facts show. sure there will be outliers. 1000% there are many bucking the odds.



but he’s mostly right. and that is hard for so many to hear. that’s why so many fear speaking it.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 June 2021 - 03:45 PM.

[Mike K.]

Maybe he’s a bit self-centred and demanding of attention. Look:

Next, he stated that too much time is "eaten up" by the children and alleged that single mums "think the world revolves around her and her kids," adding that her kids will work against you.

The child does come first, and the world should revolve around the child. A mother shouldn’t put a relationship with a random man ahead of her child.

I get what he’s saying, but his message comes across in a very negative way. He can change how he gets his message across by explaining to men that dating a woman with a child means that child will (should) come first, and if you enter into that relationship you’re entering into a relationship with a woman and a dependant(s) that they will need to invest quality time into.

[qv]

Maybe he’s a bit self-centred and demanding of attention. Look:

The child does come first, and the world should revolve around the child. A mother shouldn’t put a relationship with a random man ahead of her child.

I get what he’s saying, but his message comes across in a very negative way. He can change how he gets his message across by explaining to men that dating a woman with a child means that child will (should) come first, and if you enter into that relationship you’re entering into a relationship with a woman and a dependant(s) that they will need to invest quality time into.

Yep, this guy sounds like so many self-centered dudes I've met who like to be provocative for attention.

Edited by qv, 27 June 2021 - 08:04 PM.

[Barrrister]

QV: I believe that his point is that one should not bother to date single moms in the first place. I dont think he is suggesting that the moms are wrong in putting their kids first but that does not mean that they are great candidates to date in general. 

 

On top of that one has the possibility of major legal obligations these days. Is it unfair, most likely but in most cases dating a single mom is not the best idea.

[Victoria Watcher]

other than attacking the messenger (qv, Bellepincess) can anyone actually pick apart the message?

I think he’s on solid ground.

[Rob Randall]

There are some amazing single moms out there, some of them are top drawer--they're single because they married guys that turned out to be creeps like the author. And being a stepfather can be a profoundly mutually rewarding experience. The individual points brought up by the author are incredibly immature and stupid and truly aren't worth engaging with.

[Victoria Watcher]

There are some amazing single moms out there, some of them are top drawer--they're single because they married guys that turned out to be creeps like the author. And being a stepfather can be a profoundly mutually rewarding experience. 

 

i said there were plenty of outliers.  millions even.  after all just in this country there are nearly 2 million single parents.   that's double what there were just a few decades ago.  people celebrate being single parents for some reason.

 

but in general the author seems correct to me.

 

sometimes people are not very rational here.  one of us will bring up a valid point, a reasonable look at the facts.

 

then invariably a whole bunch of others will chime in with the exceptions to the rule, like somehow these outliers disprove the general theory.  it's a weak way to make an argument.  it's certainly never the way to win it.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 June 2021 - 04:32 AM.

[Mike K.]

other than attacking the messenger (qv, Bellepincess) can anyone actually pick apart the message?

I think he’s on solid ground.

I did, didn’t I?

He’s upset a woman with a child doesn’t give him the attention he wants.

Well I’ve got news for him. Even in a very functional relationship where the child lives with mom -and- dad, dad’s not going to be the centre of attention. The mother will be focused on the child. Lots of guys have trouble with that shift after a child is born. Our guy has trouble with women not dropping everything for him when he enters a new relationship with them, so he has created this overly negative, and quite frankly awful persona to attribute to single mothers because he can’t handle rejection.

Prove me wrong

…and he’s a single dad. What negative traits can we apply to him to scare women away from entering into relationships with single fathers?

[Victoria Watcher]

He’s upset a woman with a child doesn’t give him the attention he wants.

Prove me wrong

 

i do not think he's upset.  he's just showing the facts.  

 

he says it's not worthwhile being in that relationship because yes the child gets all/most of the attention.  so why bother?  he says move on to a different relationship.  and that sounds like a great plan.  who wants a crap relationship?  

 

he also advocates for guys picking up their game.  he says guys don't take care of their body, their income, their attitude and then complain they can't find top shelf women.  this also seems good.

[Mike K.]

A man who doesn’t understand a woman with a child has to put that child first doesn’t have any hope at top shelf women. That man is already discount liquor in the dating game, and he's making another man rich by paying to read basic life facts.

So really he's speaking to the lowest common denominator that lacks the wherewithal to consider a child needs more time and investment than a grown man does.

I don’t know what you see in this guy, but he’s teaching simpletons simple life facts. He’s hardly a philosopher.