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[Langford] Danbrook One / RidgeView Place | 11-storeys | Rentals, commercial | Built - completed in 2019


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#361 Spy Black

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 07:18 AM

But if the building was as seismically stable as 80% of the similar sized (footprint and height) buildings currently occupied in B.C. ... why would the muni and the engineers association make it sound like it was on the cusp of falling down?

 

I strongly wonder whether the technical details would indicate that this was more a result of an inflexible B.C. building code than it was any actual chance that the building might collapse, or even pose a danger to the occupants?

 

Thus a detailed reportage of the specific technical details, written by some keener reporter, would likely make the entire story much more easily understood, essentially answering the questions related to the building falling down, or simply not meeting an ultra-strict, non-flexible B.C. Building Code, one that's got vastly different requirements from the same B.C. building code as it read 25 years ago?



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Posted 03 June 2022 - 07:39 AM

Here is some background that the Westshore dug up. Sounds like a little more than small oversights.

 

https://www.capitald...rook-one-design



#363 Spy Black

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 07:58 AM

Thanks for that link!

To my eye, the most egregious "oversight" noted in that article was the fact that the foundation was completed before a geo-tech report was available ... but then the article doesn't go on to explain if the geo-tech report ultimately gave the go-ahead based on their sub-surface analysis?

 

I suspect the geo-tech report did come back with positive news though, as remediating sub-surface issues after a building was completed would either be impossible, or cost $20 million.

 

Based on the article spanky linked to, I do wonder if this was a situation where a multitude (or even just "a lot") of separate issues became apparent ... none of them at all critical on their own, but taken together demonstrating such a profound lack of experience and/or effort on the part of the engineer ... the Muni simply had no choice but to rescind the occupancy permit?



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Posted 03 June 2022 - 08:00 AM

^ So back to my earlier comment about whether this was this engineer's practice for other buildings? I find it hard to believe that someone would do their job flawlessly for years and then on one project completely drop the ball in so many apparent areas


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#365 Mike K.

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 08:23 AM

This was the engineer's first all-concrete highrise residential structure, which would be a departure from what I believe to have been a career of designing mostly 1+5s (one floor concrete, five wood).

 

It's like building an F150 and an F250. The F250 has beefed up components but fundamentally the vehicles are quite similar but you want to tow the weights you could with a comparable F250.


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#366 AllJetNoPilot

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 09:56 AM

The Engineers of BC Discipline page has the Consent Order with details on the full number engineering of failures that took place in this case, as well as the Order of the Investigation Committee on Extraordinary Action which outlined his previous experience.

 

There's also a new posting for the other member of the firm outlining their taking the project on without the right experience or time.

 

Theodore (Ted) Sorensen, P.Eng.

#367 Spy Black

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 10:06 AM

Great links!

Those documents answer all the questions I was asking above.

That is an incredibly long list of everything from relatively minor, to incredibly major flaws in the buildings design and engineering.

 

Reading those documents ... I'd certainly never want to set up house in that building prior to it being completely remediated!

That is a very long list of design errors ... he comes across as a complete amateur, and one wonders how he ever got himself retained in the capacity of the engineer of record in the first place?



#368 Mike K.

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 12:21 PM

AllJet, thank you very much for the links.

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#369 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 07 June 2022 - 06:20 AM

Cap Daily:

 

 

 

 

 

Second Danbrook One engineer accused of contributing to the building’s flaws

 

A second senior engineer involved in the 11-storey Danbrook One building’s faulty structural design has been accused of wrongdoing by the professional association that oversees engineers’ work.

Ted Sorenson, the principal engineer at Sorenson Trilogy Engineering, is accused by the Engineers and Geoscientists of BC of unprofessional conduct and incompetence resulting in a structural design for the residential high-rise that wasn’t up to the BC Building Code’s seismic standards. The building was evacuated in December 2019 when the City of Langford revoked the occupancy permit.

The current owner, Centurion Property Associates, has completed remedial construction work, and the building has been slowly refilling with new tenants since May. It also changed the name and address to RidgeView Place at 2770 Claude Road.

The main structural engineer on the project was Brian McClure, who Capital Daily reported last week has been stripped of his accreditation and ordered to pay a $25K fine and $32K in costs. Now his boss faces a similar review for his role in the faulty design.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 07 June 2022 - 06:20 AM.


 



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