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#16461 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 06:16 AM

So what would have happened if he didn't "agree" to be retained? Why was he asked in the first place?

 

maybe it was more like "do you want to speak to a lawyer to perhaps arrange a bail or other type of release hearing?" and he said no.



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 06:44 AM

So what would have happened if he didn't "agree" to be retained? Why was he asked in the first place?

 

The cops were hoping that he would be released in front of the police station. He was smart enough to realize that he might trip and fall and break a few bones. Ah the good ol days, we may have infringed upon a few perps rights but at least we had safety and order.

 

Del is in a tough spot. One day he is being the dutiful Mayor's biotch and telling us that downtown is perfectly safe and that those of us who say otherwise are liars and losers while the next he is looking at what stands between him, his members and the 'wood shed' and doing these pressers. I guess the saw off in this case is telling us that the perp spontaneously appeared in front of Our Place and committed the crime but otherwise had no relationship with any social service agency and was not brought here by induced demand and failed policy.


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#16463 Mike K.

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 07:37 AM

Has Manak said the situation in Victoria was the proverbial "safe," in the sense politicians have referred to as "safe?"

 

I think we can all agree that you're not likely to be involved in a criminal incident when downtown, so it's "safe" in that regard, but we can all (at least here) agree that the rate and increased violence of criminality is not as it was in 2014.

 

I mean we have one of the highest crime severity indexes in Canada now. We're a far cry from the declining crime rates we saw from the 2000s right through 2014.


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Posted 29 September 2021 - 08:31 AM

Del was on CFAX this morning announcing his "call to action" but without any details on what that might be. I guess he couldn't get ahold of the Mayor to ask her what to say.

 

Here is something you can sticky.

 

In the not too distant future a VicPD officer is finally going to 'lose it' after being spat on or taunted one to many times. The activists will be there to film and edit the incident and have it posted to social media. The Mayor will pretend to have empathy for the officer but then behind the scenes support the call for civilian oversight and leadership of VicPD as an experiment in creating change. Some prof in the UVIC sociology department will of course be recommended.


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#16465 JimV

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 01:09 PM

He’s expressed his frustration several times recently.  In fairness, he’s in a bind.  Like the rest of us he’s a victim of the revolving door justice system.  As we have discussed elsewhere in this thread, that is a complex problem arising from federal law, court decisions, limited resources, public tolerance of bad behaviour and overwrought concern for “the most vulnerable.”  There is not too much of this that is within the control of the police department.

 

The local mayors have already written Ebey.  He, of course, can plausibly pass the buck since he has no jurisdiction over the courts or the feckless federal government.  I think they should demand an in-person meeting with Horgan to address this problem.  He seems to be a supporter of respect for the law (e.g. Fairy Creek.) So let’s get at least some public moral support and hopefully concrete action on the mental illness component of the problem.  It needs to be seen as a political issue for any senior government to pay attention.

 

As for the police, perhaps they could spend a bit less time administering Naxalone and protecting anarchist mobs and more making arrests.  The perps will soon be back on the streets but at least it will inconvenience them and that would be a serious concern for those who are not otherwise involved in the criminal lifestyle. They could also recommend charges for drug possession instead of looking the other way.  The public would also be encouraged by some actual arrests of statue wreckers and church vandals.

 

The roots of our social problems go deep, not least in our acceptance of wokeness, which is one of those bouts of madness which sweep periodically through the western world (and sometimes elsewhere, e.g. China’s Cultural Revolution.)  That’s too big to tackle but at least we could pull a few annoying weeds by replacing the mayor and most of council at the next election.


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#16466 Nparker

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 01:15 PM

... at least we could pull a few annoying weeds by replacing the mayor and most of council at the next election.

This is essential if we ever hope to restore Victoria; if not, I am afraid the CoV is a lost cause.



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 07:45 PM

 

 

In the not too distant future a VicPD officer is finally going to 'lose it' after being spat on or taunted one to many times. The activists will be there to film and edit the incident and have it posted to social media. 

 

i wouldn't be shocked if some faction of the police force starts to go vigilante after the incident, far away from prying eyes and cameras.


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Posted 29 September 2021 - 08:27 PM

i wouldn't be shocked if some faction of the police force starts to go vigilante after the incident, far away from prying eyes and cameras.

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Posted 30 September 2021 - 03:27 AM

Sooke arsonist sent to treatment centre

Times Colonist - 30 Sep 2021

A man who set fire to a homeless shelter in Sooke six months ago has been sent to a residential treatment centre to deal with substance abuse and trauma.

On Wednesday in Western Communities provincial court, Robert Dick, 42, pleaded guilty to arson. Judge Ted Gouge sentenced him to time served — the equivalent of 220 days in jail — and placed him on one year of probation with conditions to attend a recovery program and take forensic counselling.

Defence lawyer Tom Morino said Dick was asked to leave the 18-bed shelter on Otter Point Road on March 25 because he was smoking heroin. “Without anything to do and nowhere to go, he got upset and angry and he started to break up a bit of furniture,” said Morino. “In anger and frustration, he set his bed in his sleeping pod alight.”

 

Morehttps://digitaltimes...281582358788584

 

 



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Posted 30 September 2021 - 06:33 AM

Sooke arsonist sent to treatment centre

Times Colonist - 30 Sep 2021

A man who set fire to a homeless shelter in Sooke six months ago has been sent to a residential treatment centre to deal with substance abuse and trauma.

On Wednesday in Western Communities provincial court, Robert Dick, 42, pleaded guilty to arson. Judge Ted Gouge sentenced him to time served — the equivalent of 220 days in jail — and placed him on one year of probation with conditions to attend a recovery program and take forensic counselling.

Defence lawyer Tom Morino said Dick was asked to leave the 18-bed shelter on Otter Point Road on March 25 because he was smoking heroin. “Without anything to do and nowhere to go, he got upset and angry and he started to break up a bit of furniture,” said Morino. “In anger and frustration, he set his bed in his sleeping pod alight.”

More: https://digitaltimes...281582358788584

He’ll be in Victoria in not time, where you never get kicked out of homeless housing and police will never take you in, and no one will ever ask you to try to stop using.

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Posted 30 September 2021 - 06:35 AM

With the COV pop. less than 100K and few large businesses who wield much influence, no political entity is likely to pay much attention.

Too bad amalgamation didn't happen - would have had numbers that would have impact at the political level.

 

Very smart of the province to take a hands-off stance on amalgamation - works to their advantage right across south Vancouver Island.


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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:33 PM

Police dog tracks down suspect after stolen van crashes in Highlands

West Shore

2021-10-01 - File #2021-18220

 

An investigation into a single vehicle collision in the Highlands led to the arrest of a woman after she fled the scene of the crash.

 

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At approximately 9:30 a.m. on September 29, 2021, West Shore RCMP officers responded to a report of a single vehicle collision on Millstream Rd near Lost Lake Rd in the Highlands. Witnesses were able to provide a detailed description of the driver who left the scene, apparently uninjured.

 

During the course of the investigation, it was determined that the white Dodge van involved in the crash had been reported stolen out of Victoria.

 

 More police resources were brought in to assist, including the Police Service Dog (PSD) Halla, who was quick to track down the suspect who was hiding in the bush off the roadway nearby.

 

This woman, 27 year-old Audrey Moffatt, was subsequently arrested and was held for a telebail where she was charged with Possession of Stolen Property and Breach of Probation as she was bound with conditions to not be in a motor vehicle, said Cst. Alex Bérubé, spokesperson for the West Shore RCMP.

 

The investigation is still ongoing.

 

If you have any information, please contact the West Shore RCMP at 250-474-2264.


 

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#16473 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:36 PM

 

This woman, 27 year-old Audrey Moffatt, was subsequently arrested and was held for a telebail where she was charged with Possession of Stolen Property and Breach of Probation as she was bound with conditions to not be in a motor vehicle, said Cst. Alex Bérubé, spokesperson for the West Shore RCMP.

 

 

 

 

2015:

 

Camper Audrey Moffatt, 21, was raised in Kelowna and has been in Victoria about two months. She said she came to Victoria after being given a bus ticket by Vancouver police.

 

https://www.timescol...-hell-1.2137977

 

2018:

 

 

Chen said people shoplift when they’re poor as a means of survival, and that they’ll shoplift whether or not they’re living in a camp. She also described the police’s actions as the “criminalization of poverty.”

 

Audrey Moffatt, a resident of the camp and member of Camp Namegans Leadership Committee, called the arrests “ridiculous.”

 

Moffatt said campers are doing “everything we can with what little we have” in meeting Saanich’s demands, and that arrests aren’t helping anything.

 

“You’re in survival mode, so you steal,” Moffatt said. “Arrests set us up for failure … it’s hard.”

 

https://www.victoria...t-city-arrests/


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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:47 PM

 

“You’re in survival mode, so you steal,” Moffatt said. “Arrests set us up for failure … it’s hard.”

You break the law, you pay the price. Poverty is no excuse.



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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:51 PM

she's underserved though.


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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:55 PM

Three men arrested for refusing to wear masks on BC Ferries sailing to Vancouver Island

October 1, 2021 
 
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The incident occurred on Sept. 24 during the 7 p.m. sailing from Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay.

Three men from the Lower Mainland were arrested after they allegedly refused to wear masks and threatened passengers on board a BC Ferries vessel bound for Vancouver Island.

The incident occurred on Sept. 24 during the 7 p.m. sailing from Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay.

Sidney-North Saanich RCMP says officers were alerted by ferry staff that the three men, who were from the Lower Mainland, were causing a disturbance on board by not wearing masks.

Police also described the men as being aggressive towards other passengers, trying to fight individuals who confronted them about not following the mask mandate.

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#16477 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:57 PM

that's a bit of a misleading headline.  there are no arrests for "not wearing masks".  at least not yet.    

 

people have to get way past the ****ing hysteria.


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#16478 Nparker

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Posted 01 October 2021 - 04:59 PM

 

Three men arrested for refusing to wear masks on BC Ferries sailing to Vancouver Island
Now this is a REAL crime. None of that silly stabbing and car theft nonsense.


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Posted 01 October 2021 - 07:17 PM

This was our work van. It’s a write off. Stolen from Rock Bay Area. Apparently the van was filled with stolen goods.

Police dog tracks down suspect after stolen van crashes in Highlands
West Shore

2021-10-01 - File #2021-18220


An investigation into a single vehicle collision in the Highlands led to the arrest of a woman after she fled the scene of the crash.


82394_Media_resized.jpg


At approximately 9:30 a.m. on September 29, 2021, West Shore RCMP officers responded to a report of a single vehicle collision on Millstream Rd near Lost Lake Rd in the Highlands. Witnesses were able to provide a detailed description of the driver who left the scene, apparently uninjured.


During the course of the investigation, it was determined that the white Dodge van involved in the crash had been reported stolen out of Victoria.


More police resources were brought in to assist, including the Police Service Dog (PSD) Halla, who was quick to track down the suspect who was hiding in the bush off the roadway nearby.


This woman, 27 year-old Audrey Moffatt, was subsequently arrested and was held for a telebail where she was charged with Possession of Stolen Property and Breach of Probation as she was bound with conditions to not be in a motor vehicle, said Cst. Alex Bérubé, spokesperson for the West Shore RCMP.


The investigation is still ongoing.


If you have any information, please contact the West Shore RCMP at 250-474-2264.



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#16480 A Girl is No one

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Posted 01 October 2021 - 07:24 PM

Sorry to hear Klapecki… that sucks…

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