Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 October 2021 - 09:27 AM.
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#16541
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:27 AM
#16542
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:28 AM
Capital Daily has achieved their objective of convicting him without a trial. It's the woke thing to do. I am sure they are fine with the outcome.
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#16543
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:30 AM
probably. but if charges are sworn not sure it will make much difference. if they are not approved you can still report on a person being arrested. as we saw with the TC and the Earl Large story.
Charges have not been sworn, according to Capital Daily's update:
CORRECTION on October 3, 2021: An earlier version of this story said Wallace has been charged. The BC Provincial Court says no charges have been sworn on this file at this point. This story will be updated when and if this changes.
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#16544
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:31 AM
i mean if they are entered in the coming days. minor errors like the Daily has made will me moot.
#16545
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:33 AM
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#16546
Posted 04 October 2021 - 09:45 AM
It’s not the media’s role to pre-empt due process, is it?
It shouldn't be.
#16547
Posted 04 October 2021 - 10:04 AM
probably. but if charges are sworn not sure it will make much difference. if they are not approved you can still report on a person being arrested. as we saw with the TC and the Earl Large story.
If sexual assault charges are laid. I still can't find anything in the published accounts that would amount to that however.
As we saw here, the Capital report has already led to people drawing conclusions and 'convicting' the guy. I am sure that if he had any semblance of a business left it is now gone.
#16548
Posted 04 October 2021 - 10:49 AM
The Capital has now sent an email which sounds even different. Sounds like they ran the story without any confirmation from VicPD. Jimmy is an experienced reporter.
Yesterday morning we sent out a newsletter with the headline, "Driving school owner arrested and charged." That headline, and the accompanying newsletter item, was incorrect: driving school owner Steve Wallace has been accused of three counts of sexual assault, according to a police document, but contrary to our reporting, charges have not been sworn. (And as noted in the story, none of the accusations has been proven in court.)
VicPD has not yet responded to multiple requests for clarification on this story, but BC Court Services confirmed to us that our initial reporting was incorrect.
The story has been corrected on our website. We're sorry for the error, and we will continue to follow this story.
—Jimmy Thomson, managing editor
Edited by spanky123, 04 October 2021 - 10:50 AM.
#16549
Posted 04 October 2021 - 10:56 AM
They are also glancing over the fact that they claimed he was released on bail. That never happened.
VicPD has not yet responded to multiple requests for clarification on this story, but BC Court Services confirmed to us that our initial reporting was incorrect. The story has been corrected on our website. We're sorry for the error, and we will continue to follow this story.
I do not believe it is VicPD's role to respond to unsubstantiated claims of charges and assumptions under the guise of clarification requests.
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#16550
Posted 04 October 2021 - 10:59 AM
So... what actually happened?
The Daily seems to be where the woke turn to for their news. I get the sense they were salivating over the opportunity to take aim at someone even remotely representing 'big carbon'.
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#16551
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:01 AM
it would seem an odd time for VicPD to remain silent. compared to their usual release of information on various files.
#16552
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:03 AM
They are also glancing over the fact that they claimed he was released on bail. That never happened.
I do not believe it is VicPD's role to respond to unsubstantiated claims of charges and assumptions under the guise of clarification requests.
I am wondering now if the documents that the Capital claims to have from the police were obtained through proper channels. Seems unusual that the police would supply them and not then not answer any questions.
#16553
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:03 AM
This is a tactic used a lot nowadays (by both sides): they know that he correction will only reach a small percentage of the people who heard about the accusations. Capital Daily are activists disguised as journos.
The Capital has now sent an email which sounds even different. Sounds like they ran the story without any confirmation from VicPD. Jimmy is an experienced reporter.
Good morning,
Yesterday morning we sent out a newsletter with the headline, "Driving school owner arrested and charged." That headline, and the accompanying newsletter item, was incorrect: driving school owner Steve Wallace has been accused of three counts of sexual assault, according to a police document, but contrary to our reporting, charges have not been sworn. (And as noted in the story, none of the accusations has been proven in court.)
VicPD has not yet responded to multiple requests for clarification on this story, but BC Court Services confirmed to us that our initial reporting was incorrect.
The story has been corrected on our website. We're sorry for the error, and we will continue to follow this story.
—Jimmy Thomson, managing editor
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#16554
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:04 AM
...The Daily seems to be where the woke turn to for their news. I get the sense they were salivating over the opportunity to take aim at someone even remotely representing 'big carbon'.
And presumably to take down another straight, white, male, settler.
#16555
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:06 AM
I am wondering now if the documents that the Capital claims to have from the police were obtained through proper channels. Seems unusual that the police would supply them and not then not answer any questions.
Or if they were obtained at all. A 'document' nowadays could be an email, or a text message.
We still don't know if Wallace was arrested. Nothing has been corroborated by police.
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#16556
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:08 AM
I am wondering now if the documents that the Capital claims to have from the police were obtained through proper channels. Seems unusual that the police would supply them and not then not answer any questions.
that's a very good question. who leaked the document?
also to spanky's repeated stance here, he is correct, this is the most defining thing we have ever heard about the allegations:
After Oye and others spoke out about their experiences in Capital Daily’s first investigation, more and more women came forward with their own stories. In total, we have spoken to more than 20 women who said they had been sexually harassed or sexually assaulted by Wallace.
All of them said he would repeatedly compliment their appearance, say “I love you”, and touch their leg, thigh, or hand during driving lessons. Some women say he pinched or rubbed their butt, and one says he leaned across and buckled her seatbelt during a driving lesson, running his hand across her chest in a way that immediately made her uncomfortable. In another incident, a woman—who was a teenager at the time—alleges that he instructed her to drive to his friend’s apartment and made her go in. She said he and his friend spent about 20-30 minutes complimenting her appearance, asking her to guess the cost of objects in the room, and laughing at her discomfort.
https://www.capitald...-driving-school
there is not too much damning in there except the "butt" pinching or grabbing part. the other touching might be justified in in-car training.
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 October 2021 - 11:10 AM.
#16557
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:10 AM
In my opinion, what Jimmy needs to do is call his boss Andrew Wilkinson and have them engage with council.Or if they were obtained at all. A 'document' nowadays could be an email, or a text message.
We still don't know if Wallace was arrested. Nothing has been corroborated by police.
Edited by spanky123, 04 October 2021 - 11:24 AM.
#16558
Posted 04 October 2021 - 11:14 AM
it would seem an odd time for VicPD to remain silent. compared to their usual release of information on various files.
i also do believe that VicPD rarely name the suspects they have arrested until the charges are formally registered. they do not name the person in any random arrest.
but they could easily come out today and say they "arrested a suspect in a high-profile sexual assault case involving a local driving school/business" or similar vague wording.
#16559
Posted 04 October 2021 - 12:09 PM
Or if they were obtained at all. A 'document' nowadays could be an email, or a text message.
We still don't know if Wallace was arrested. Nothing has been corroborated by police.
Well the article still claims that they obtained undertaking documents. Interesting as this article seems to state that undertaking documents are not public. ACC-2 - Access to Court Records.pdf (provincialcourt.bc.ca)
#16560
Posted 04 October 2021 - 12:27 PM
The Capital has updated its article yet again. Now showing the letter of undertaking and claiming that Ms. Oye provided it to them.
Don't know if that helps or hurts their case. It clearly states that Wallace has been accused of sexual assault, nowhere does it state that he was arrested or charged.
Edited by spanky123, 04 October 2021 - 12:45 PM.
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