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1010 Fort Street
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 1010 Fort Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 12
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#121 Mike K.

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 08:38 PM


I attended the CALAC meeting. Kind of depressing, actually. No wonder construction in Victoria is so expensive! I think the building is attractive, will command only modest rents, and is offering rentals that the City really needs.

Interestingly, last year the DRA Land Use Committee supported a 12 story building at 930 Fort St saying "DRA Land Use Committee review of this proposal finds it of a high build quality and design,
fitting for the local area, and technically in keeping with the stated objectives of the OCP." (https://victoriadra....820465087890625). Comments quoted in the letter praised the 930 Fort building as being tall, yet slender, and for building on an existing lot instead of joining several lots together. I'm not sure exactly what changed the character of this meeting. Perhaps rental vs. strata?

Several people at this meeting complained about parking. Personally, I think it's downtown, by the protected bike network, and with good transit options. Avoiding the huge cost of underground parking will help keep the construction costs down, and the lack of dedicated parking will help keep rents down.

My only concern is that there may not be enough bicycle parking provided.


There has been a real shift at the DRA over the last year, and it has caught many people by surprise.

The developers of the 930 Fort project are also the developers of the Jukebox.

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#122 Rob Randall

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 09:22 PM

You think the setback is too far back? I think it's just right. 

 

The developers of the 930 Fort project are also the developers of the Jukebox.
 

 

No, 930 is Sakura Developments (Dan Robbins). Jukebox is Mosaic Properties (McColl/Charity).


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#123 Mike K.

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 05:12 AM

Their efforts are intertwined, I believe.

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#124 aastra

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 12:16 PM

 

You think the setback is too far back? I think it's just right.

 

You may well be right but to my eye the image seems to show more than a meter of setback beyond the line established by the existing buildings. I'm not denying that a bit of variation can work. Sometimes it can. But unnecessary variation can also deliver a gut punch re: the flow and continuity of the streetscape. We talk about the Wave on Yates all the time in this regard.

 

I'm sure we've all seen this faux building in the Cambie Street village many times. Just look at how jarring and inconsistent that big setback is with the cozy neighbourhood commercial feel. The building is short so no problem there, the faux-historic look is actually not half bad (certainly not convincing, but not too cornball, either) so no problem there… but the out-of-place setback is deadly.



#125 Rob Randall

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 12:32 PM

You're right, it is pulled back and if memory serves it is a metre from the lot line. 

 

But unless the Noodle House shack is declared heritage I think you will one day see a wide sidewalk and aligned storefronts. Just because a couple of buildings are too close to the sidewalk doesn't mean you maintain that distance with new construction.


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#126 Nparker

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 12:53 PM

It seems to me, where the second level meets the building next door there is no additional setback.

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While it is true that some of the streetfront is pushed back about a meter, what appears to be the main entrance "canopy" is pretty much flush with the existing setback. 

 

Also, it's not as though larger setbacks don't already exist on this block.

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#127 Jackerbie

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 01:09 PM

You may well be right but to my eye the image seems to show more than a meter of setback beyond the line established by the existing buildings. I'm not denying that a bit of variation can work. Sometimes it can. But unnecessary variation can also deliver a gut punch re: the flow and continuity of the streetscape. We talk about the Wave on Yates all the time in this regard.

 

I'm sure we've all seen this faux building in the Cambie Street village many times. Just look at how jarring and inconsistent that big setback is with the cozy neighbourhood commercial feel. The building is short so no problem there, the faux-historic look is actually not half bad (certainly not convincing, but not too cornball, either) so no problem there… but the out-of-place setback is deadly.

 

Technically speaking, the setback is consistent (i.e. zero setback), the difference is that new developments have been asked to provide road dedication on Cambie and the rear lane. Long term plan is for a wider sidewalk and a wider lane to accommodate the increased traffic.

 

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