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Parkway
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 1518 Cook Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 6
Parkway is a proposal to restore the two-storey Wellburn's Market building at the intersection of Cook Street ... (view full profile)
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[North Park] Parkway (Wellburn's Building redevelopment) | 6-storeys | Proposed


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#101 Nparker

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:28 AM

^ The second option. It's a black white and grey colour scheme...

Yuck.



#102 aastra

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:31 AM

I just don't see why the little section along the street needs to seem so somber. You get my meaning? Is the long-term goal to de-quirkify that part of Cook and make it super straight-laced or something?


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#103 Jason-L

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:34 AM

Very brutalist and imposing.  Should be a good fit for the new neighbourhood.



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Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:39 AM

I just don't see why the little section along the street needs to seem so somber. You get my meaning? Is the long-term goal to de-quirkify that part of Cook and make it super straight-laced or something?

 

I like the new build, and the material palette works well with the massing and articulation. It's the restoration of Wellburn's that I don't like. Keep it red. Or go full quirky and take a page from Lower Johnson. Even a dark grey if the monochrome design is important to the developer. It just needs something to better distinguish it from the rest of the building.

 

Very brutalist and imposing.  Should be a good fit for the new neighbourhood.

 

Brutalism is fine when done right, and what really makes or breaks brutalist buildings is the landscape design. The concept from the CALUC did a better job showing this.


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#105 G-Man

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:41 AM

I don't mind the look but that mid block pass through to the park is problematic. There should be windows in there or it going to turn badly.

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#106 G-Man

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:42 AM

Actually there appears to be some but the old wall of the barbershop needs some punch outs.

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#107 Jackerbie

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:15 AM

I don't mind the look but that mid block pass through to the park is problematic. There should be windows in there or it going to turn badly.

 

It's not shown in the renderings, but the pass through is gated. The entire wall of the new build commercial unit is glazed, and then the ground floor residential units also have some glazing. The restored building definitely needs some punch outs or at least a mural.

 

Cross section showing the pass through

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Cook Street elevation

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#108 Nparker

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:20 AM

...The restored building definitely needs some punch outs or at least a mural...

It really should have some colour.



#109 AllseeingEye

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 08:33 PM

New rendering of this proposal in the Saanich News:

 

https://www.saanichn...Hlromrj0WkbNCk8



#110 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:26 PM

Wow!

 

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Edited by Rob Randall, 10 June 2019 - 09:29 PM.

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#111 Nparker

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:34 PM

I am really not sold on the monochromatic palette.

#112 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:39 PM

It's in full colour. See your ophthalmologist.


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#113 AllseeingEye

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:44 PM

Of course the NIMBY's are out in full force on one of the local FB groups screaming about "more high-rises" (because six floors you see is an abomination before God) and the usual refrain about "looking more and more like Vancouver" and, my favorite thus far, Victoria becoming "a....mini Manhattan". Good grief....the Horror, the Horror....!


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#114 grantpalin

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:55 PM

Of course the NIMBY's are out in full force on one of the local FB groups screaming about "more high-rises" (because six floors you see is an abomination before God) and the usual refrain about "looking more and more like Vancouver" and, my favorite thus far, Victoria becoming "a....mini Manhattan". Good grief....the Horror, the Horror....!

Well, this is Victoria, after all. I'd have to be suspicious if we didn't get this reaction at every new development project.

 

As for the render, I suppose a nice thing to say is that the new portion does not heavily clash with the old.



#115 Casual Kev

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:34 PM

Of course the NIMBY's are out in full force on one of the local FB groups screaming about "more high-rises" (because six floors you see is an abomination before God) and the usual refrain about "looking more and more like Vancouver" and, my favorite thus far, Victoria becoming "a....mini Manhattan". Good grief....the Horror, the Horror....!

 

I always laugh at "we're becoming like Vancouver" being an actual, popularly employed insult in this sort of context. Vancouver's main development issue is that the rest of the city (let alone the region) isn't actually on board with Vancouverism... thanks to the fact insufferable but politically active NIMBYs like those found here are just as common over there.


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#116 Jason-L

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 06:43 AM

Not brutalist enough - more concrete on the facings might help, and it needs to loom more.



#117 DavidSchell

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:36 AM

People who are saying "we are becoming like Vancouver" will be dead and buried for a long time, before Victoria will ever look like Vancouver.

 

Hopefully the Victoria City Council does not pay too much attention to such extreme views.


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#118 Nparker

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:46 AM

...Hopefully the Victoria City Council does not pay too much attention to such extreme views.

Victoria City Council is the home of extreme views.


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#119 aastra

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:13 AM

 

It's in full colour. See your ophthalmologist.

 

I do see him. He's the guy dressed in shades of grey near the tree on the left side.



#120 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:19 AM

Per the article Wellburn's will close by May 2020.  



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