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2018 Victoria municipal election - who stays, who goes?


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Poll: Who wins and who loses come October 2018? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Select up to 9 City of Victoria incumbents that you think will be re-elected in October 2018

  1. Mayor Helps (17 votes [11.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.04%

  2. Alto (21 votes [13.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

  3. Coleman (16 votes [10.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.39%

  4. Isitt (22 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  5. Madoff (17 votes [11.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.04%

  6. Loveday (19 votes [12.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.34%

  7. Lucas (7 votes [4.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  8. Thornton-Joe (17 votes [11.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.04%

  9. Young (18 votes [11.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.69%

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#41 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 07:29 AM

Why don't you run?

 

At any given time I have as many as 30 active clients, and I'm always adding more, in all types of industry (retail, hospitality, services, tech, real estate) and even occasionally government.  I'm sure that would make for all kinds of conflicts.  

 

Anyone else (sparky, Mike etc. ) feel free to use this excuse too, it's a good one I just thought up.


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 08 May 2018 - 07:37 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#42 spanky123

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 07:37 AM

Whats the alternative? We have to be realistic

 

There will be a credible option. The people pushing for an announcement know are Helps supporters who want time to dig up dirt and start harassing people who might support the other candidate. 


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#43 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 07:40 AM

I'm afraid that Gary Beyer, if he announces, is not a build anything anywhere guy.


<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#44 spanky123

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

I'm afraid that Gary Beyer, if he announces, is not a build anything anywhere guy.

 

Do we want a build anything anywhere person or just someone who supports responsible development? I don't know if I would want 4 corners of 21 story towers with no parking and on one way, biked lane controlled streets.



#45 LeoVictoria

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 08:40 PM

So the major presiding over the biggest construction and development boom the city has seen in decades has to go regardless.   

Makes perfect sense.  

 

I suspect she will be re-elected.   Bridge is done, Victoria is booming.   Homeless problems seems to have fallen into the background again for the time being.   Can't see the conditions for an ousting.


Edited by LeoVictoria, 08 May 2018 - 08:40 PM.

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#46 Sparky

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 04:17 AM

^ Neither could Frank.

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 04:23 AM

At any given time I have as many as 30 active clients, and I'm always adding more, in all types of industry (retail, hospitality, services, tech, real estate) and even occasionally government.  I'm sure that would make for all kinds of conflicts.  
 
Anyone else (sparky, Mike etc. ) feel free to use this excuse too, it's a good one I just thought up.


My mother was involved in real estate and politics. I got to watch and listen to her on the phone every evening.

No thanks.
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#48 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 05:30 AM

So the major presiding over the biggest construction and development boom the city has seen in decades has to go regardless.
Makes perfect sense.

I suspect she will be re-elected. Bridge is done, Victoria is booming. Homeless problems....


Well, she’s quite unliked. But yes there will need to be a serious candidate.

The homeless problem is worse than it has ever been but politicians know to be quiet. In June we will get the new homeless numbers. Of course they will be immediately spun.
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<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#49 mbjj

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 06:03 AM

Who is Gary Beyer?



#50 LeoVictoria

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 06:13 AM

Well, she’s quite unliked. But yes there will need to be a serious candidate.

The homeless problem is worse than it has ever been but politicians know to be quiet. In June we will get the new homeless numbers. Of course they will be immediately spun.


She’s unliked on this forum.. but by voters? I’m not so sure.
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#51 spanky123

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 06:32 AM

Well, she’s quite unliked. But yes there will need to be a serious candidate.

The homeless problem is worse than it has ever been but politicians know to be quiet. In June we will get the new homeless numbers. Of course they will be immediately spun.

 

They have already started spinning. The message box is around the number of surveys completed which will be in the 800 range and less than the 1,300 number of homeless people counted two years ago. Note that we are talking two different things, surveys and homeless numbers. As I mentioned at the time, there were fewer volunteers this year and they were sent out over a much larger area. 



#52 spanky123

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 06:33 AM

She’s unliked on this forum.. but by voters? I’m not so sure.

 

She is hated by the business community, but by the little old lady living in Fairfield I don't know.



#53 Mike K.

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:02 AM

Our Facebook poll with thousands of participants showed very lukewarm support for the mayor. We have no way of vetting who lives in or doesn’t live in the CoV.

This fall we seperate the wheat from the chaff and find out whether the current direction at City Hall is the direction supported by the electorate.

I do think that we'll see a spike in voter participation.

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#54 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:08 AM

I ran a FB poll the other day and asked that only CoV voters participate (of course there is not way to control that) and it ran at 8% support for Helps with about 400 votes total.


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 09 May 2018 - 07:08 AM.

<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#55 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:12 AM

There is dissatisfaction with Helps but no challenger yet. If nothing changes there will be lower voter turnout which in turn affects the council race; it could depend on who knocks on the most doors. Potentially this could be bad for the long-term incumbents.

 

But it is still early. A challenger could appear, also Helps could unveil a tougher approach to the homeless and street crime (iron fist in a velvet glove) that could boost her popularity across the board. 


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#56 Mike K.

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:17 AM

Yes, I agree, if there’s no challenger to the mayor or serious challengers to incumbents the turnout will quite likely be lower.

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#57 LeoVictoria

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:37 AM

She is hated by the business community, but by the little old lady living in Fairfield I don't know.


Not hated by the tech community

#58 Mike K.

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 07:45 AM

The tech community is also made up of the smallest, most politically indifferent voter base.

 

The tech sector has to get out and vote if they want their feelings towards the current establishment felt at the polls. And other than an average tech worker, lots of the tech guys who pull the strings in this town live outside of the CoV.


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#59 spanky123

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 08:05 AM

The tech community is also made up of the smallest, most politically indifferent voter base.

 

The tech sector has to get out and vote if they want their feelings towards the current establishment felt at the polls. And other than an average tech worker, lots of the tech guys who pull the strings in this town live outside of the CoV.

 

What the tech (and most of the other business community) is smart enough to know is that it isn't wise to broadcast your opinion publicly. I know of many business leaders who are happy to stand beside Helps in any photo op, but plan to fund one of the PACs that oppose her (which thanks to the new election rules can now be done anonymously).  

 

The issues of importance to the downtown business community (tech included) are safety of their employees, business costs, taxes, transportation, and the development of a broader community. I think that Helps wins on the bike accessibility component of transportation but loses on pretty much everything else of concern.


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#60 mbjj

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 03:34 PM

I'm almost a little old lady in Fairfield and I can't stand Helps. Neither can my husband, daughter, neighbours up the street, nor a couple of my coworkers (All voters in the city.)


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