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#681 Nparker

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 10:57 AM

We have IKEA?



#682 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 11:01 AM

Kitty corner to the new Safeway.
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Posted 23 November 2021 - 12:29 PM

I see people shooting up pretty much every day I'm downtown, but I think that's just my path. You'll see that in the doorways of the 800 and 900 blocks of Yates and other places (I don't bother using a two block stretch on Pandora. In front of the empty former location of BC Shavers and Hobbies. Anyways, I see far fewer panhandlers and less obviously homeless people that's for sure.

Despite that (and people rightfully having some safety concerns like Barrister and wife) downtown is great!

Perhaps people who like to crap on downtown (and there are reasons to, like anywhere) are doing so for political reasons? Or for their valid personal concerns that may be more of a reflection of their mindset than actual reality?

Downtown is on the verge of collapse they say! Where's Aastra when you need him.. he'd post 2000 articles from the TC since 1859 predicting the same thing.

If you like driving your car to easy and free parking you'll hate downtown. If you don't like political protests you'll claim it's strangling downtown. How many hours out of 4,380 (12 hours days) per year is traffic even impacted by that? You'll spend far more time in traffic commuting to suburban malls than you will be impacted by protests downtown. It seems that protests are closing highways outside of downtown, do we say that's killing Sidney or Langford?

How about we have a list of all the new retailers that have opened up in the most challenging economic times we've seen in ages?

And all those protestors - ironically good for business as they buy coffee and go for lunch after...

As Mike K would say, don't believe the hype and the doomsday preachers! Or wait.. I think that was Public Enemy.

We have challenges, let's tackle them and celebrate what makes Victoria special (ie - not a mall or downtown Langford, at this stage of its development).

Edited by zoomer, 23 November 2021 - 12:29 PM.

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#684 Nparker

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 12:35 PM

 

Despite that (and people rightfully having some safety concerns like Barrister and wife) downtown is great!

Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?


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#685 zoomer

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 12:48 PM

So did all future presidential families stop going to plays after that?

You're FAR more likely to be injured when in a vehicle, but that doesn't stop people from driving or being a passenger. They should all rush downtown and huddle outside of their cars on the sidewalks and they would be much safer!

Has fear paralyzed us? Whatever happened to the greatest generation? Oh wait, that's not us.

#686 kitty surprise

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 12:59 PM

Mike, I suspect that it is a number of factors combined. You are absolutely right that a lack of office workers is one but also less tourists and finally there are a lot of people like my wife who refuses to go downtown anymore but she does not want to she the joy of being around the druggies, 

 

Even five years ago she used to do all her shopping downtown,  No restaurants downtown anymore either. I am pretty sure that she is not the only one that feels like that.

 

The druggies, violence, crime and poverty industry that needs them is worse than ever - while we bemoan a precipitous drop in workers and tourists.

 

Sure blame the pandemic to a point but it is known:

 

...neither can live while the other survives...

 

Crookshanks out.



#687 Moderation

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 06:05 PM

Put this in the conspiracy thread please.


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