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#6521 TwilightZoneVictoria

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Posted 05 October 2020 - 11:51 AM

I wonder if they register under ever changing names, albeit with the same RV or camping gear?

Goldstream in the winter months has no onsite caretaker, so you drop your money in an envelope along with your site number and your ever changing name, and you're good to go?

 

French Beach is open all winter along with Goldstream, so perhaps just bouncing back and forth between the two sites once per month, and registering under a bunch of different (possibly fake?) names does the trick?

Hopefully not. Don't think it's in the interest of public safety to make it easy for people to book under fake names at a family campground.



#6522 On the Level

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Posted 10 October 2020 - 11:21 AM

Oh I like this.....

 

 

It would be nice to have a homeless person on City Council. Maybe then we could communicate. When will Council talk instead of survey? Couldn’t the resources be put to better use? So far 340 000 has gone nowhere or did we forget the original 300 000 they talked about using Where?

 

Just like Centennial Square, why should City Council be shielded from what they create?  I think a few replica guns and a baseball bat at council meetings would be a step forward for inclusiveness.

 

https://twitter.com/...284692053450752



#6523 Midnightly

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Posted 10 October 2020 - 01:44 PM

it seems we now have a Lisa helps spoof twitter page to match the Ben Issitt page

https://twitter.com/LisaHelps


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#6524 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 October 2020 - 01:51 PM

it seems we now have a Lisa helps spoof twitter page to match the Ben Issitt page

https://twitter.com/LisaHelps

 

unless it makes itself a clear parody account it will be removed pretty soon.



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Posted 11 October 2020 - 09:16 AM

Unfortunately, and as outrageous as some of the posts are (turning empty storefronts downtown into retreats for sex workers and no single use plastics allowed in a junkies needles) ... the concepts expressed in the posts could easily have emanated from Helps lips ... in other words, it's not at all clear it's a parody account as noted by VW above, and once Helps complains ... it will very likely disappear.



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Posted 14 October 2020 - 04:41 AM

multiple reports surfacing of isitt making a drunk ass of himself at a downtown pub this past weekend.


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Posted 14 October 2020 - 05:46 AM

multiple reports surfacing of isitt making a drunk ass of himself at a downtown pub this past weekend.

So this time he added drunk to his antics. 


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Posted 15 October 2020 - 07:13 AM

unless it makes itself a clear parody account it will be removed pretty soon.

 

 

Twitter has shut down a fake account that was impersonating Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps and urging people to vote NDP in the provincial election.

 

Helps and the City of Victoria filed four complaints with Twitter from Friday to ­Wednesday seeking to remove the @LisaHelps account.

 

https://www.timescol...ount-1.24220782



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Posted 15 October 2020 - 07:21 AM

 

Twitter has shut down a fake account that was impersonating Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps and urging people to vote NDP in the provincial election.

 

 

Helps and the City of Victoria filed four complaints with Twitter from Friday to ­Wednesday seeking to remove the @LisaHelps account.

 

https://www.timescol...ount-1.24220782

 

 

 

And this is why if you are a public figure, you don't shut down and walk away from your social media accounts.  You maintain a presence. 


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#6530 johnk2

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:00 AM

multiple reports surfacing of isitt making a drunk ass of himself at a downtown pub this past weekend.

Hopefully someone had their phone out to record it.



#6531 spanky123

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:05 AM

Joe Perkins reporting that the Mayor has pulled another one of her last minute motion stunts to install showers at RAP.

 

I wonder why she now wants showers at RAP? Anyone thinking that the plan is to set something else up at RAP to use the showers?!

 

https://twitter.com/...778270898089984


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#6532 Nparker

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:11 AM

Enforce existing overnight camping bylaws and showers will not be needed. Stop throwing CoV taxpayer money at a problem that already has a very simple solution.


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#6533 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:16 AM

a reality is that many homeless do not shower. at least very often.

#6534 Belleprincess

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 09:30 PM

What are the chances of Stephen Andrew winning - realistically? He has my vote 100% - If TV wins, it will be rather disappointing

#6535 Nparker

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 10:08 PM

...If TV wins, it will be rather disappointing

If TV wins, it will be a tragedy.



#6536 Nparker

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 10:08 PM

...If TV wins, it will be rather disappointing

If TV wins, it will be a tragedy.



#6537 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 11:02 PM

What are the chances of Stephen Andrew winning - realistically? He has my vote 100% - If TV wins, it will be rather disappointing

since there are no incumbents running, the biggest influence - incumbency advantage - doesn't come in to play

 

one important factor is turnout.  by-elections are traditionally low turnout events. low turnout voters tend to be whiter, older, wealthier and better educated

 

yet another factor is the information environment the election takes place in - are voters getting the information they need to make an informed choice - are candidates making use of all opportunities, press, social media, personal contact (CoVid restraint here)

 

third - and perhaps key - is organization. vital in a low turnout environment. motivating people to vote is magnified as each vote weighs proportionately more than when compared to high turnout events

 

if this is a low turnout by-election - the candidate machine will have a big influence

given that personal campaigning is limited social media and press will have more impact

the demographic makeup might be the least important

 

there are only two serious candidates - Stefanie Hardman and Stephen Andrew announced so far. So there is no way to determine possible effect of vote-splitting at this point.

 

TV and Hardman may have an edge in organization, fund-raising, and tech savvy social media types, so in a low turnout environment have the edge there

 

however the close association with the current council could be a negative if the motivating factor for voting is the current mess of tent cities/homelesness and causes a larger turnout that could counteract their numbers.

 

Stephen Andrew has the closest thing to the incumbent advantage as his close 9th place finish in the last general election may give him name recognition and a built in base - but as demonstrated the TV base is a much larger. TV candidates outpolled Stephen Andrew by 15-40% in 2018.

 

additionally. any voters motivated in opposition to current council's handling of issues are more likely to gravitate to Stephen Andrew

 

taken together these factors would lead to a conclusion that who turns out to vote, and in what numbers will tell the tale.

 

two special circumstances are the pandemic and election timing (Dec 12) - for two reasons - not as many students are in town, and many of the snowbirds are stuck here -  both of these might favour Stephen Andrew as the TV demographic skews younger whereas the older voter would likely lean towards Stephen Andrew.

 

looks like a tossup - but based on past results alone, and assuming the general disinterest in by-elections TV has a definte edge.

 

disclosure - i am wrong more often than right!  ;-)


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#6538 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 05:00 AM

i'm not sure it's at all accurate to say TV outvoted SA "15-40".   with multiple votes you can't cumulate them like that to get to 40%.   also the vote spread between TV candidates shows that not everyone - not even every TV voter - voted them as a block.

 


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 October 2020 - 05:03 AM.


#6539 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 05:18 AM

^

 

9098 x 40% = collins (approx.)

9098 x 15% = dubow (approx)


Edited by tommy, 17 October 2020 - 05:20 AM.


#6540 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 October 2020 - 05:40 AM

oh I thought you meant andrew got 15% and TV got 40%

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