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#11281 JimV

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 01:13 PM

Helps/Alto can't deny crime is a problem anymore so the new messaging is that it is a problem but only a handful of people are behind it so Eby's study will solve the problem. Move on then, nothing more to see here.

Alas, the gangs of drunken marauding “youths” tend to undercut this message.



#11282 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 01:30 PM

A gang destroyed a statue - on film - and nobody was arrested.

Not sure if VicPD will have more success catching this new gang being bad.
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#11283 JimV

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 01:45 PM

Well yeah, but they were fighting colonial oppression so they’re pretty much immune to law enforcement even if the police are on the scene.


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#11284 Mike K.

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 05:06 PM

Former Victoria councillor Helen Hughes has passed away.

Hughes served between 1990 and 2008.

There’s a fairly comprehensive bio on Hughes here: https://www.royalroa.../helen-hughes-0
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Posted 17 May 2022 - 09:14 AM

If Helen Hughes were on the ballot today, would she be elected? She was by all accounts an amazing person who contributed greatly to her community and undertook her duties with care and consideration. She did it as a matter of civic duty - it wasn't about the next rung on the ladder, or an ideology, it was about what was best for Victoria. Arguably, a very different person from who is sitting at that table right now. Given the state of things, I'm not sure she'd run in the current environment and worse yet, I'm not sure she'd be elected.

 

There's something that is very sad about that thought - that we are moving rather rapidly towards shutting the door on some very capable and effective leaders, not because they can't do the job and can't do it well, but because we've chosen the sizzle over the steak. 


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 09:35 AM

...we are moving rather rapidly towards shutting the door on some very capable and effective leaders, not because they can't do the job and can't do it well, but because we've chosen the sizzle over the steak. 

I think you mean the "fizzle" over the steak.


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Posted 26 May 2022 - 02:10 PM

Missing middle gets sent back for more public consultation in a 5-4 vote. 


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#11288 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 May 2022 - 02:55 PM

The motion to have staff hold further consultation passed 5-4 with councillors Isitt, Thornton-Joe, Stephen Andrew, Sharmarke Dubow, and Geoff Young voting in favour.




Who flipped? Dubow?

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Posted 26 May 2022 - 03:08 PM

Oh, Stephen Andrew flipped.

#11290 Nparker

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Posted 26 May 2022 - 03:18 PM

Oh, Stephen Andrew flipped.

Hopefully this means he is listening to his constituents.


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#11291 Mike K.

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 03:50 AM

It all comes down to not understanding what is within the 2,000 page report. What exactly is council being asked to vote for? Average constituents are still mystified by the whole program, and do not comprehend sufficiently the way this will change their city. And it’s clear council doesn’t either or at least they’re not presenting themselves as sufficiently aware of what’s being asked of them.
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:35 AM

Oh, Stephen Andrew flipped.

 

In fairness to Stephen, he tends to forward motions for further discussion or review without necessarily indicating that he supports the motion as it stands.

 

I think in this case he made the right move however. It was pretty clear after the COTW vote last week that Helps was going to use council's vote to claim victory and that any engagement would just be window dressing after the fact. 


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#11293 Barrrister

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:42 AM

Why does Helps care so much considering she is leaving? Has she made promises?



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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:52 AM

She might feel it’s good for the resume.

#11295 Nparker

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:52 AM

Why does Helps care so much considering she is leaving? Has she made promises?

I am sure she hoped this would be her "positive" legacy. I hope her 8 years as mayor simply fades into a footnote in the city's history.



#11296 Mike K.

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:53 AM

Whether this gets through or not doesn’t ultimately matter to a politician exiting the arena, as they’ll either be a winner or a martyr for trying.

The mayor called SFD neighbourhoods racist constructs and to that end they must be eliminated. What the outcome of the process is might not concern a politician who won’t be overseeing the city under the new rules.

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:55 AM

^ Unless their new job is reliant on the new rules!



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Posted 27 May 2022 - 08:28 AM

The money is in the drawn out and laborious approvals process, perhaps.

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Posted 27 May 2022 - 08:53 AM

Whether this gets through or not doesn’t ultimately matter to a politician exiting the arena, as they’ll either be a winner or a martyr for trying.

The mayor called SFD neighbourhoods racist constructs and to that end they must be eliminated. What the outcome of the process is might not concern a politician who won’t be overseeing the city under the new rules.

As they continue to shepherd mass micro loft building which are no family dwellings....  


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Posted 27 May 2022 - 09:44 AM

Just wait until the activists working to infiltrate Langford politics elect the same mentality running Victoria.

Good bye housing in Greater Victoria.
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