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#61 Knot-A-Yacht

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 01:42 PM

Is there an actual connection from the restaurant to the docks? I would have thought the entry/exit is adjacent to the amenity building.

Correct - only access is from the west end via keycard beside the business office.



#62 Gary H

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:09 PM

I've never seen a yacht in berth #17 (the other 480 volt slip) moored as depicted in the drawing.  They are always moored as in the photo below.  Note the nearest utility box appears to be EL-A (the normal single phase) while the further one, between the 3rd and 4th piling, must be an EL-B (the 480 V 3-phase). 

 

 

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#63 AllseeingEye

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:38 PM

I think the restaurant is going to be a huge hit; of all places on my bus into work this morning was a group of four 30-something riders just raving ecstatic about the place. So much so I think Mrs ASE and I will have to check it out soon - that halibut dish looks awesome.......


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#64 Gary H

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:59 PM

The pizza here is very good.  And you can enjoy it in the cafe with some currently unobstructed views of the harbour.

 

roasted vegetable 17

pesto, mozzarella, parmesan, seasonal vegetables

 

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#65 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:41 AM

You'll never find a waterfront city that has fewer waterfront eating options per capita* than Victoria does, so that may be part of the reason why people are talking about this place. Also, Victorians love new stuff (even though they love to act like they don't love new stuff).

 

*let's see if this catches on like the other one


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#66 Rob Randall

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:31 AM

Is seating reserved for restaurant patrons or can you buy a brownie and coffee from the snack bar and sit somewhere?


“I mean I just don’t understand the big Texas part, like maybe he’s from Texas? I want to know the back story.”


#67 Gary H

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:50 AM

The cafe area pictured above is open seating.  You order your brownie at the counter and take it to an open seat.  You also order cafe menu items, like pizza, at the counter and then take a seat.  Someone then brings you the item when it's made.  It's very casual.  Reservations are for the dining area and are recommended.


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#68 Cassidy

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:06 AM

You'll never find a waterfront city that has fewer waterfront eating options per capita* than Victoria does.....

Really?

Victoria has about 4 miles of non-residential waterfront. In that four miles (on the water) are:

 

Breakwater Bistro, Moka House Coffee, Barbs Fish and Chips, Coast Hotel - Blue Crab, Laurel Point Hotel - Aura, Steamship Grill and Bar, Milestones, Flying Otter Grill, Red Fish Blue Fish, Lido Waterfront Bistro, Fishhook at Mermaid Wharf, Canoe Club, Fantastico Bar, Foi Epi, LURE at the Delta, Spinnakers.

 

You can add another 10 or so more restaurants if you include those on the other side of the road ... but either way, it's a pretty sizable list of waterfront venues in which to take ones meal.,



#69 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:26 AM

he said per capita.

so 360,000/27

1 for every 13,333 people. less if you take out infants and the elderly / blind that can’t fully appreciate a waterfront setting.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 June 2019 - 11:29 AM.


#70 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:53 AM

I was poking fun at the "more restaurants per capita" claim that so many cities like to make, including Victoria.

 

Come on, for a tourism-focused city of Victoria's size you'd expect dozens of waterfront restaurants, easily. Tourists mention it all the time, how few and far between the waterfront places are. I'm not saying the situation isn't slowly improving. This marina restaurant is another piece of the puzzle, as are some of the other recent additions mentioned by Cassidy.

 

Heck, I'm just a young whippersnapper but even I remember how big a deal it was when a restaurant not-in-a-hotel opened on the Selkirk waterfront (I believe it was called "South Bay" in its first incarnation? I'm an old coot now so my memory isn't what it used to be.) In the CoV such straightforward waterfront establishments were almost unheard of. This was before things like the Steamship Grill and Fol Epi at Dockside Green, obviously.


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#71 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:58 AM

Victoria's resistance to mixed-use waterfront developments is obviously one of the big reasons for this situation. If the Songhees had been redeveloped in a more urban and less campus-like fashion then there would surely be a few more places over there.


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#72 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:00 PM

I still think a cafe or restaurant space should have been created on the new property by the JSB. And maybe as part of the Clover Point work, too.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:49 PM

he said per capita.
so 360,000/27
1 for every 13,333 people. less if you take out infants and the elderly / blind that can’t fully appreciate a waterfront setting.

He also said "Victoria", which is why I didn't list the other 30 or 40 waterfront eateries in the CRD.

 

So with "Victoria" in mind, that's 90,000 folks, so roughly 1 restaurant for every 4500 or so residents (of "Victoria"), far less if you take out infants, the elderly, the blind, and myriad of folks who just plain old don't bother eating out.

 

So really ... not bad at all in terms of number of restaurants on the waterfront in the City of Victoria PER CAPITA.

 

(positing about building restaurants in Beacon Hill Park, on Clover Point, or anywhere else where it's been patently understood for over 100 years there will be no "commercialization" is just a waste of time).


Edited by Cassidy, 14 June 2019 - 01:50 PM.


#74 DustMagnet

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:55 PM

...  the elderly ... that can’t fully appreciate a waterfront setting.

 

Hold up.  The argument against reducing parking along Dallas Rd by even a few spots has always been so that the elderly can enjoy the waterfront setting.  We can hardly say that they wouldn't also appreciate it from a restaurant.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 02:03 PM

(positing about building restaurants in Beacon Hill Park, on Clover Point, or anywhere else where it's been patently understood for over 100 years there will be no "commercialization" is just a waste of time).

 

clover point is not in the park it could have a restaurant.  they are building food truck pads there now.



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Posted 14 June 2019 - 02:11 PM

2011 says:

 

 

Given our island setting, you might expect a vast number of eateries from which to view the sun setting over the Pacific. But alas, much of the waterside land that is commercially zoned is owned by the government, which tends to use it for less esthetically pleasing purposes. Fortunately, there are exceptions.

https://www.timescol...ictoria-1.22558

 

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#77 Cassidy

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:40 PM

clover point is not in the park it could have a restaurant.  they are building food truck pads there now.

It most certainly isn't IN the park, nor is Beacon Hill Park ON Clover Point ... that's why I put a comma there ... so you wouldn't get confused.

 

I'm not sure a food truck pad is much different than the paved parking lot that's already there ...and thus I don't really see what pads have to do with anything I wrote.



#78 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:45 PM

I think he was just padding his argument.


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#79 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:47 PM

Some people would say this board is all about pads. Luxury condo pads, that is. Destructive gentrification. Etc.



#80 aastra

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 04:48 PM

We're leapfrogging from one topic to another now.



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