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[Victoria Watcher]

public not at risk. as in the people of interest are in jail?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 August 2019 - 09:23 AM.

[Rob Randall]

Obit:

 

https://www.legacy.c...e&pid=193663179

 

Marty worked a number of years at the plywood mill in Victoria before switching to courier work, eventually landing his long-term employment with BC Mail Plus which he enjoyed, appreciating the many friendly personalities he met on the job. After meeting his long-time sweetie, Catherine, as a young man he had the perfect adventure companion, going on trips together and raising two very loved daughters. Marty loved photography, making videos, and getting outdoors for sports, travel and exploration. Marty had a great love and respect for his family- his care and devotion to us was unconditional, and his happy light-hearted nature brought unity and joy into our times together. Marty was a truly good person, his thoughtfulness and ability to bring positivity and humour into the lives of all he encountered was a gift for which he will be remembered.

 

[martini]

Obit:

https://www.legacy.c...e&pid=193663179

I had been to her most recent book launch. It came as a shock to realize the connection. Such a senseless loss.

[Redd42]

I had been to her most recent book launch. It came as a shock to realize the connection. Such a senseless loss.

 

What connection?

[Victoria Watcher]

Langford Mayor Stew Young says the public is right to demand answers about any links between a recent escape from William Head minimum-security prison in Metchosin and a homicide in the community.

 

“I’ve got residents very concerned right now,” said Young. “My goal now is to have the [victim’s] family be told the truth of what happened so they can get some kind of closure on this, to ensure the community is safe, and that we never, ever bring these types of [high-risk] prisoners to that prison again.”

 

 

https://www.timescol...ling-1.23928046

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 August 2019 - 02:27 PM.

[martini]

What connection?

Sorry didn't see this until now.
I didn't realize the relationship between Catherine Stewart and Martin Payne.

[Victoria Watcher]

The judge sentencing one of two inmates who escaped from a Metchosin prison over the summer said he was “bewildered” as to what the man – who has a number of other escapes on his record – was doing in a minimum security environment.

 

Zachary Armitage, 30, appeared by video in the Western Communities Court on Monday, wearing a blue jumpsuit and sitting in a small room at Mountain Institution, a medium security prison in the Fraser Valley. He plead guilty to escape from lawful custody. He is currently serving a sentence of 13 years and 10 months for robbery, aggravated assault and other offences.

 

https://www.vicnews....ecurity-prison/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 October 2019 - 04:05 AM.

[SamCB]

Has there still been no "official" link made between these escapees and the murder? Has Westshore RCMP admitted these two are suspects? 

[Victoria Watcher]

no and no.

[Victoria Watcher]

maybe the judge should have just asked him informally if he knew anything about the dead guy.

 

 

Crown has not asserted any crimes were committed while the pair were out of custody, but it was noted that Armitage was found with drug paraphernalia at the time of his arrest.

 

Armitage’s defence attorney, Roberto Alberto, said his client was up for parole in September and felt the pressure of his potential release.

 

 

https://www.vicnews....-year-sentence/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 November 2019 - 04:32 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Armitage and James Lee Busch, 42, escaped from the minimum-security prison in Metchosin on the night of July 7. They were discovered missing during an 11 p.m. head count. The two were recaptured in Esquimalt on July 9 by an off-duty RCMP officer.

 

The same week the men escaped, Martin Payne, 60, was found dead in his home on July 12, three days after his vehicle was found in Oak Bay. Payne’s home is about eight kilometres from William Head prison. No charges have been laid in his death.

 

https://www.timescol...year-1.24011911

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 November 2019 - 06:33 PM.

[A Girl is No one]

https://www.saanichn...osin-prisoner/#

Busch was serving time for second-degree murder and assault when he escaped William Head Institution with fellow inmate Zachary Armitage on the evening of July 7. The two were present for the prison’s 7 p.m. head count, and were discovered missing at 11 p.m.

The pair evaded authorities for two days before being re-captured in Esquimalt. The escaped inmates commented on the size of a dog near the Songhees Walkway on the evening of July 9, unknowingly alerting its owner – an off-duty RCMP officer – to their location. The officer called 911 and the two men were arrested by the Victoria Police.

On Monday, Alberto requested a Gladue report be prepared for his client – a process that will delay sentencing by at least eight weeks. A Gladue report is a pre-sentencing or bail hearing report for Indigenous offenders with recommendations to the court on appropriate sentencing. The report usually includes information on the individual’s family and background and is typically created by Gladue caseworkers at the request of a judge or lawyer.

[martini]

The silence around his murder is deafening. 

[A Girl is No one]

wondering if the request for a gladue report for one of the prison escapees provides a hint about the silence...

[Mike K.]

🔺🚔BREAKING: West Shore RCMP make arrests associated with 2019 murder of Metchosin man during following prison break🚔🔺

James Lee Busch and Zachary Armitage have been charged with one count each of first degree murder, in relation to Martin Payne’s death.

In the early morning hours of July 8, 2019 West Shore RCMP received a report that two individuals had escaped from a federal institution. Immediately upon receiving the report, the West Shore RCMP commenced an investigation and search for the men, in co-operation with the Correctional Service of Canada (CSC). Public alerts and appeals for information were issued and law enforcement agencies were notified. On July 9 at approximately 8:00 p.m. James Lee Busch and Zachary Armitage were located and arrested. The arrest took place after an off duty RCMP officer spotted the escapees in Esquimalt and contacted 911 for the Victoria Police Department to respond.

On July 12, 2019, The West Shore RCMP attended a residence in the 1000-block of Brookview Drive, Metchosin, to check the well-being of 60-year-old Martin Payne, who had failed to show up for work. When officers arrived, they found Mr. Payne deceased inside his residence. Given the circumstances at the scene, criminality was suspected and the Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit (VIIMCU) was called to investigate.

The 11-month investigation, led by VIIMCU, involved police officers from several police agencies including; West Shore RCMP, the BC RCMP Major Crime Section, Forensic Identification Section, and Victoria, Saanich and Oak Bay Police departments, states Superintendent Sanjaya Wijayakoon, the Operations Officer of the BC RCMP Major Crime Section.

Chief Superintendent Sean Sullivan would like to personally thank and recognize all the men and women in policing who worked on this investigation. We are fortunate to have such dedicated and committed officers and employees.

"Our condolences go out to Martin Payne’s family and friends.," says Inspector Todd Preston, Officer in Charge of the West Shore RCMP. "We know that this has been a very difficult time for the community and citizens of the West Shore and in particular, Metchosin. We want to thank the citizens for their patience in the investigative process"

Statement from Martin Payne’s family
Marty was deeply loved by his tight circle of friends and family and we have continued to mourn his senseless loss every day for the past 11 months. The man who was taken from us was an exceptionally gentle and caring human being whose love, support, and encouragement were unfailing.

We are completely devastated and have been relying heavily on one another throughout this horrifying ordeal. At this time, we would like to thank everyone who has supported us directly or indirectly and all of the law enforcement agencies that have worked tirelessly on this case. We also humbly request that our privacy is respected as we continue to deal with our profound grief.

[Victoria Watcher]

11 month investigation? we named the suspects a day later.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 June 2020 - 12:14 PM.

[tanker]

Great job corrections Canada. Low risk my butt.

[Victoria Watcher]

In the early morning hours of July 8, 2019 West Shore RCMP received a report that two individuals had escaped from a federal institution. Immediately upon receiving the report, the West Shore RCMP commenced an investigation and search for the men, in co-operation with the Correctional Service of Canada (CSC). Public alerts and appeals for information were issued and law enforcement agencies were notified.

 

 

except this all didn't happen as fast as it should have.

 

 

 

 

In the most recent escape, surveillance cameras showed Busch and Armitage leaving the prison at 6:45 p.m. on July 7, but the escape was not discovered until 11 p.m., when Correctional Service of Canada staff did a head count.

 

The correctional service notified West Shore RCMP at 1:15 a.m. on July 8 — two hours and 15 minutes later. The correctional service told the public at 6:21 a.m. July 8 with postings on social media. The RCMP followed with a news release at 10:45 a.m. on July 8.

 

The men were recaptured on July 9 in Esquimalt. But then news broke that Metchosin’s Martin Payne, 60, who lived eight kilometres from the prison, had not shown up for work on July 9, 10 or 11. His truck was discovered in Oak Bay on July 9 and his body was found in his home on Brookview Drive on July 12. Police have not linked Payne’s death with the escape, but some family members have publicly called for answers about whether there is a link.

 

 

https://www.timescol...y-in-1.23934040

 

so a litany of errors and delays there.  not the least is his car being found on the 9th but his home not checked until the 12th.   

 

 

early saturday afternoon is also an odd time for police to make the news release.  unless they want less coverage.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 June 2020 - 01:32 PM.

[Gipper]

early saturday afternoon is also an odd time for police to make the news release. unless they want less coverage.

The charges were laid today.

[Victoria Watcher]

The charges were laid today.

 

but why?  11 months.  suspects are already in jail - going nowhere.  why not lay charges this coming monday or wednesday?  or last tuesday?

 

that's my point.  this was carefully timed.

 

at the end of the day it does not matter that much.  nobody has ever answered to all the issues in this case.  the vehicle as i mentioned above or even the government boss of the victim.  guy no-shows for 3 days and lives in metchosin, boss or union does nothing?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 June 2020 - 01:59 PM.