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#1 Citified.ca

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 05:10 PM

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An 11-lane bowling alley in a dining and entertainment complex with seating for nearly 650 patrons has been proposed for Uptown Shopping Centre in Saanich. 

 

Bowling alley with 636-seat two-storey restaurant proposed for Uptown Shopping Centre in Saanich

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 05:31 PM

636 seat restaurant?  the largest restaurant in town by far?



#3 Nparker

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 05:36 PM

So bowling could return close to the the former location of the Town & Country lanes?

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 05:50 PM

A couple video tours of the location in Fort Mac.

https://youtu.be/w78sKIdQmNk

https://youtu.be/Edu3gwqYRUw

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 06:51 PM

This is what Uptown has been missing, as someone who works and lives very close to uptown this is perfect. Lets just hope prices are decent 


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:12 PM

As this is in the pubs-bars-19+ venues section rather than the restaurant section, does that mean this is going to be a bar/pub with bowling?  Or is it going to be a restaurant with bowling?  "Dining and entertainment complex" doesn't tell us anything.



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Posted 02 August 2019 - 01:52 AM

all pubs can allow kids all restaurants can allow just drinkers not sure it makes much difference.
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Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:36 PM

11 lanes seems low though. I hope this happens and Rec room as well (say, combined with a Silver City, over at University Heights or Hillside area).
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Posted 02 August 2019 - 05:08 PM

636 seat restaurant?  the largest restaurant in town by far?

 

Interesting. The ownership group just opened their first restaurant in Fort Mac in June. It is about 1/3rd the size, has 6 lanes and employs 150 staff. 



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Posted 02 August 2019 - 11:48 PM

all pubs can allow kids all restaurants can allow just drinkers not sure it makes much difference.

Big difference between food-primary and liquor-primary; even after the rules changes of a few years ago.



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Posted 03 August 2019 - 12:52 AM

I believe the only difference is food primary most have full hot entrees available at all times plus cutlery on tables. that’s it.

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 02:21 PM

I believe the only difference is food primary most have full hot entrees available at all times plus cutlery on tables. that’s it.

There's also some requirement that only a certain percentage of the overall customer count can be served drinks only in a food-primary.  It used to be that someone at the table had to order food, but that went away - so now if a couple of people go into a restaurant and only have drinks it's OK but if everyone does it the restaurant will get in trouble.


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 02:28 PM

There's also some requirement that only a certain percentage of the overall customer count can be served drinks only in a food-primary.  It used to be that someone at the table had to order food, but that went away - so now if a couple of people go into a restaurant and only have drinks it's OK but if everyone does it the restaurant will get in trouble.

 

that sounds right.  but probably if you are open normal daytime hours you are ok on that.  i think you have to have proper seating for everyone too.  you can't run a restaurant with an occupant load of 200 but only have 125 seats.  some fuzziness here comes with having a lounge endorsement. 


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 11:48 AM

As this is in the pubs-bars-19+ venues section rather than the restaurant section, does that mean this is going to be a bar/pub with bowling?  Or is it going to be a restaurant with bowling?  "Dining and entertainment complex" doesn't tell us anything.

 

Saanich staff report is scant on details but it does include the proposed floor plans. It's online: https://www.saanich....chaug1219rc.pdf

 

Looks to be a pub with bowling (and a shuffleboard I think), as the application is for Food Primary. 


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 12:17 PM

Saanich staff report is scant on details but it does include the proposed floor plans. It's online: https://www.saanich....chaug1219rc.pdf

 

Looks to be a pub with bowling (and a shuffleboard I think), as the application is for Food Primary. 

If it's food-primary then it's a restaurant with bowling.  A pub is a place where you go to get a beer; a pub with bowling would be liquor-primary.

 

(one of my pet peeves is these places that call themselves pubs but are in fact just disguised restaurants)



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Posted 06 August 2019 - 12:49 PM

The rules have changed so you no longer need to look like a traditional restaurant with your food primary license.

 

To put things in perspective, ask yourself what the physical difference is between the Sticky Wicket's horseshoe bar and adjacent table seating, and a Browns Crafthouse with its bar and adjacent table seating? The truth is there is no difference.


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#17 Matt R.

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 05:08 PM

Food primary doesn’t even need a live music endorsement anymore as far as I know. It’s basically the Wild West out there, as long as you have an operating kitchen and a full menu with entrees.

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Posted 06 August 2019 - 08:54 PM

The rules have changed so you no longer need to look like a traditional restaurant with your food primary license.

 

To put things in perspective, ask yourself what the physical difference is between the Sticky Wicket's horseshoe bar and adjacent table seating, and a Browns Crafthouse with its bar and adjacent table seating? The truth is there is no difference.

Physically, there's very little difference at all; and that's just the problem when I-the-consumer can go with some friends into one establishment and spend the evening drinking beer (on the assumption that's what the place is there for) without anyone batting an eyelid but will probably get asked to leave the other establishment on doing the same thing.

 

Put another way: when listing the current pubs/bars in Greater Victoria, what counts and what doesn't?  Does the Shark Club count?  Original Joe's in Gordon Head?  McRae's on Shelbourne?



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Posted 07 August 2019 - 02:56 AM

Physically, there's very little difference at all; and that's just the problem when I-the-consumer can go with some friends into one establishment and spend the evening drinking beer (on the assumption that's what the place is there for) without anyone batting an eyelid but will probably get asked to leave the other establishment on doing the same thing.

 

Put another way: when listing the current pubs/bars in Greater Victoria, what counts and what doesn't?  Does the Shark Club count?  Original Joe's in Gordon Head?  McRae's on Shelbourne?

 

nobody will ask you to leave if you just have beers anywhere.  it's fine.  as long as you don't get drunk and troublesome.

 

shark  - lp

original joes - fp

mcraes - fp



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Posted 07 August 2019 - 04:56 AM

You can sit and drink in one of these places all day. So long as they serve enough food overall throughout the day the duffs can hang out all they want.

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