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[Victoria Watcher]

sure I can agree with all that.

we are nowhere near being significantly worse than April though.

so let’s stop lockdown talk.

[Victoria Watcher]

^But isn't there only 20 ICU beds in use for Covid patients?

correct.

Fifty-nine people are in hospital and 20 of them are in intensive care.


https://www.timescol...ment-1.24205902



nobody wants to see that go up to 200 but what the heck were those 20 doing to catch it? they are all likely old and/or compromised so why the f*ck were they anywhere near the virus?


if I lived next door to an 80 year old couple I’d be doing all their public chores for them.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2020 - 03:04 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

September 12 - 7 deaths in Canada

September 13 - 1

14 - 8

15 - 9

16 - 5

17 - 7

18 - 5

 

so we are doing quite well.

 

 

and now a look at the age of the deaths:

 

https://health-infob...d-19-cases.html

 

 

 

only 3.3% of the deaths are people under 60.  and less than 1% are under 50.  instead of CERB we should have just dropped the retirement age to 55.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2020 - 05:55 AM.

[amor de cosmos]

Nanaimo’s biggest mall has posted a letter at mall entrances and on social media saying it intends to make masks mandatory and require customers to take temperature checks starting next week.

According to a letter to customers on Woodgrove Centre’s Facebook page, masks will be mandatory and “temperature stations” will be set up as of Monday, Sept. 21. The letter, which indicates it’s from a new CEO and general manager, Bin Wang, is dated Sept. 11 but wasn’t posted until today, Sept. 18. The letter was also put up at mall entrances.

“As you have probably heard … our shopping centre has now become Central Walk Woodgrove Centre,” notes the Facebook post. “Our new management team has adapted the current health regulation from the Ministry of Health and complement some new procedures to ensure our customers’ safety. We hope you enjoy shopping at Central Walk Woodgrove Centre and have a wonderful day.”

https://www.nanaimob...ecks-mandatory/
 

New details surfaced on Thursday on an unexplained neurological condition that struck a volunteer who was participating in AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine trial.
 
In an internal safety report obtained by CNN, company officials describe how a healthy 37-year-old woman "experienced confirmed transverse myelitis" after receiving her second dose of the vaccine. She was hospitalized on Sept. 5.
 
The report describes how the patient had the first dose of the coronavirus vaccine in early June and was fine. She received her second dose in late August. While out running on Sept. 2, she "had a trip [not fall] with a jolt." The report noted that she did not have any obvious injury to her spine when examined, according to CNN.
 
The next day, the report said, she had difficulty walking, pain and weakness in her arms, pain and reduced sensation in her torso, a headache and reduced ability to use her hands.
 
The report mentions twice that the woman was diagnosed with "confirmed" transverse myelitis, CNN reported. The condition, which can be triggered by viruses, causes inflammation in the spine.

https://medicalxpres...neca-covid.html
 

While the American Dental Association hasn't done a survey to verify an increase in dental problems since the pandemic started, reports of pandemic-related dental problems are common, and sales of mouthguards to prevent people from grinding their teeth are up.

"We can defer care for a while, but deferred care becomes critical care at some point. The bacteria don't know there is a pandemic," says Matthew Messina, DDS, a consumer advocate for the American Dental Association and an assistant professor of dentistry at The Ohio State University College of Dentistry, Columbus

A combination of delayed care and stress have led some dentists to see cracked teeth, sore jaws, and cavities, dentists say.

Stress can affect teeth, says Laurence Rifkin, DDS, a cosmetic and restorative dentist in Beverly Hills, CA, who treats Acosta. Rifkin says he's noticed more of his patients coming in with cracked teeth in the past few months. More are also complaining of sore jaws, he says, perhaps from clenching or grinding.

https://www.webmd.co...llateral-damage
 

U.S. adults increasingly experienced symptoms associated with acute stress and depression as COVID-19 cases and deaths skyrocketed between mid-March and mid-April 2020, according to a study of more than 6,500 people from three large, nationally representative cohorts. These symptoms were related to preexisting mental and physical health conditions, as well as secondary stressors such as job and wage loss. Acute stress and depressive symptoms were also related to greater COVID-19-related media consumption, a general increase in media consumption during the outbreak, and exposure to conflicting information in the media about the outbreak.

https://www.eurekale...t-uae091820.php

Madrid region imposes partial lockdown as virus spirals out of control
https://medicalxpres...urbs-virus.html

France reports new daily record of 13,215 COVID-19 infections
http://www.ecns.cn/n...yp8471522.shtml

French Finance Minister tests positive for COVID-19
https://www.channeln...vid-19-13124912
 

China appreciates Canadian Minister of Health Patty Hajdu's objective and fair comments on China's efforts to combat COVID-19, a Foreign Ministry spokesperson said Friday.

China is willing to work with the international community including Canada, to make positive contributions to containing the pandemic at an early date, spokesperson Wang Wenbin said.

Wang made the remarks at a daily press briefing when asked to comment on Hajdu's remarks in a recent interview, which recognized China's efforts in informing the World Health Organization (WHO) of the emergence of the novel coronavirus very early and sharing its genetic sequence, enabling other countries to carry out testing quickly.

http://www.ecns.cn/n...yp8471519.shtml
 

Trump administration officials at the Department of Health and Human Services reportedly bypassed career government scientists and authored the significantly relaxed coronavirus testing guidelines that experts criticized as medically unsound and dangerous when they were first published on the CDC website last month.
 
The New York Times reported late Thursday that the revised guidance—which says people who have been exposed to coronavirus don’t necessarily need to get tested if they are asymptomatic—were posted online despite “serious objections” from CDC scientists. (Update: On Friday, the CDC reversed the testing guidance, saying in a new document that those who have been exposed to coronavirus “need a test” whether or not they have symptoms.)
 
“The Department of Health and Human Services did the rewriting and then ‘dropped’ it into the CDC’s public website, flouting the agency’s strict scientific review process,” according to the Times, which cited anonymous officials familiar with the matter.
 
One unnamed federal official told the Times that the revisions “came from the top down, from the HHS” and the White House Coronavirus Task Force headed by Vice President Mike Pence.

https://www.nakedcap...guidelines.html
https://www.commondr...blish-dangerous

[spanky123]

sure I can agree with all that.

we are nowhere near being significantly worse that April though.

so let’s stop lockdown talk.

 

There will be no lockdown. The NDP desperately wants an election and the only way they can call one is to convince people that things are getting better and not worse.

[Barrrister]

I doubt there will be a lockdown any time soon. But there wont be a return to normal anytime soon either. 

[Victoria Watcher]

hopefully the increased numbers are just the result of a final summer fling at labour day.

 

ontario hit a new record for testing yesterday at nearly 40,000.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2020 - 12:25 PM.

[Barrrister]

I would not be surprised if the numbers start to climb with the re-opening of schools. 

 

I suspect that we will see more business casualties especially restaurants as we enter the winter doldrums. The tourist businesses are starting to implode from what I hear. On the other hand home renovations are booming.

[amor de cosmos]

2 positive cases of COVID-19 confirmed at Nunavut's Hope Bay mine
https://www.cbc.ca/n...navut-1.5731457
 

Key proteins used by coronavirus for its reproduction being modeled on NSF-funded Frontera supercomputer by Andres Cisneros research group of the University of North Texas. Research goals include finding ways to improve on COVID-19 therapeutic remdesivir. NSF-funded Frontera allocation awarded to Cisneros through the COVID-19 High Performance Computing Consortium.

In May 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authorized the antiviral drug remdesivir for emergency treatment of COVID-19, one of only four therapeutics currently with this status. Remdesivir stops the chemical machinery that the coronavirus uses to copy itself, binding to an enzyme that does the assembly. While remdesivir has shown promise in helping patients recover from COVID-19, scientists are investigating ways to improve its effectiveness.

A team of scientists led by G. Andres Cisneros of the University of North Texas is modeling the key parts of the coronavirus that it uses to copy itself. The simulations are being done on the Stampede2 and Frontera supercomputers at the Texas Advanced Computing Center (TACC).

"We were very fortunate to be granted an allocation on Frontera to be able to work on investigating the mechanism of drugs that target two specific proteins in COVID-19," Cisneros said. His work investigates how remdesivir and other available drugs inhibit the proteins NSP-12 and the main protease, both enzymes the coronavirus needs for replication. "By looking at how these drugs do their work, perhaps this information can be used to improve upon them."

https://phys.org/new...us-machine.html

Nigeria announced Saturday the immediate reopenings of worship centers, cinemas and gyms in Lagos.
The move comes six months after they were shut down because of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.aa.com.t...n-lagos/1979165
 

In a new World Economic Forum-Ipsos survey of more than 21,000 adults from 28 countries nearly nine in ten say they are ready for their life and the world to change.
 
72% would like their own lives to change significantly and 86% want the world to become more sustainable and equitable, rather than going back to how it was before the COVID-19 crisis started. In all countries, those who share this view outnumber those who don’t by a very significant margin (more than 50 percentage points in every country except South Korea). Preference for the world to change in a more sustainable and equitable manner is most prevalent across the Latin America and Middle East-Africa regions as well as in Russia and Malaysia.
 
Next week’s World Economic Forum Sustainable Development Impact Summit will address the achievement of the sustainable development goals and the appetite for transformation which will drive the “decade of delivery”.
 
Clear majority ready for a more sustainable and equitable world
 
Globally, 86% of all adults surveyed agree that, “I want the world to change significantly and become more sustainable and equitable rather than returning to how it was before the COVID-19”. Of those, 46% strongly agree and 41% somewhat agree, while 14% disagree (10% somewhat and 4% strongly).
 
Russia and Colombia top the list of countries that strongly or somewhat agree with that statement at 94%. They are followed by Peru (93%) Mexico (93%) Chile (93%) Malaysia (92%), South Africa (91%) Argentina (90%) and Saudi Arabia (89%). The countries that are most change averse – disagreeing somewhat or strongly disagreeing with the statement – are South Korea (27%), Germany (22%), Netherlands (21%), US (21%) and Japan (18%).

https://moderndiplom...-post-covid-19/

Australia's COVID-19 epicentre Victoria says new cases drop to 3-month low
https://www.channeln...p-to-3-13126636
 

People in England who refuse to self-isolate to stop the spread of coronavirus could face fines of up to £10,000 ($13,000, 11,000 euros) under tough new regulations announced Saturday to tackle a surge in cases.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said this week that Britain was seeing a second wave of COVID-19, and introduced new restrictions for millions of people across northwest, northern and central England.

In a further measure announced late Saturday, he said that from September 28 people will be legally obliged to self-isolate if they test positive or are told to by the National Health Service (NHS) tracing programme.

"The best way we can fight this virus is by everyone following the rules and self-isolating if they're at risk of passing on coronavirus," Johnson said in a statement.

"And so nobody underestimates just how important this is, new regulations will mean you are legally obliged to do so if you have the virus or have been asked to do so by NHS Test and Trace."

Currently people who have symptoms or test positive are asked to self-isolate for 10 days. Those who live with someone who either has symptoms or tests positive must self-isolate for 14 days.

The new fines will start at £1,000—in line with breaking quarantine after international travel—and rise to £10,000 for repeat offences and the worst breaches, including businesses that threaten self-isolating staff with redundancy, officials said.

https://medicalxpres...us-england.html

توفي نائب رئيس وزراء أوزبكستان، أوكتام بارنويف، اليوم الأحد، بعد إصابته بفيروس كورونا، حسبما أفادت غرفة إدارة أزمة كورونا لدى حكومة البلاد.
deputy prime minister of uzbekistan uktam barnuyev has died from complications due to coronavirus
https://arabic.rt.co...-بفيروس-كورونا/

Edited by amor de cosmos, 20 September 2020 - 07:12 AM.

[exc911ence]

It's nice we're talking about cases now since we can't really talk about deaths anymore.

 

Must keep the fear flowing!

[Victoria Watcher]

The last time Ontario recorded more than 400 new COVID-19 cases in a single day, the entire province was still in Stage 1 of its reopening plan.

 

Restaurants, hair salon and barber shops were still closed. The reopening of indoor dining, gyms and bars – which came in Stage 3 – was still more than a month away.

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Ontario set a new record for testing on Sunday, processing more than 40,000 swabs in a 24-hour period. The government said earlier this week, the next goal will be to increase daily testing capacity to 50,000.

 

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In the first 60 days of the pandemic, the number of people hospitalized in Ontario with COVID-19 also surged to about 1,000, with about 270 patients in intensive care.

 

There were serious concerns that Ontario could have a lack of ventilators, something other countries like Italy experienced during the first wave. 

 

A count of data from hospitals and public health units on Sunday found 84 patients are currently receiving treatment for COVID-19 – but that number that is on the rise. 

 

 

https://toronto.ctvn...s?autoplay=true

 

 

and then of course just to drive home the point that this thing is always political and the public will never be fully informed (and why most of us do not trust politicians):

 

 

 

 

 

The government has not provided any information on how many new cases would need to be confirmed before further shutdowns are ordered.

 

 

 

 

 

Hospitalizations in Alberta have gone up for the second straight day. The total is now at 44 with seven people in an intensive care unit.

 

https://everythinggp...er-slave-river/

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Quebec government is expected to announce today that it is reducing the size of private gatherings and imposing new restrictions on bars and restaurants in the province's two biggest cities amid an increase in cases of COVID-19.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...id-19-1.5731610

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Quebec reported 462 new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday and 427 new cases on Saturday. The province hasn't seen similar daily increases since late May. Hospitalizations have been increasing at a slower rate, and are now at 138, up from 124 a week ago.

 

Being placed in the orange category — up from yellow, designated as the "early warning" level — will come with tightened public-health restrictions. According to Radio-Canada, these restrictions are likely to include: 

• Reducing the maximum number of people allowed at a private gathering from 10 to six.
• Reducing the maximum number of people allowed per restaurant table from 10 to six.
• Requiring bars to stop serving alcohol earlier than midnight.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 20 September 2020 - 09:35 AM.

[spanky123]

It's nice we're talking about cases now since we can't really talk about deaths anymore.

 

Must keep the fear flowing!

 

Agreed although the fear will be based on political desires. The Feds and BC don't want you to be afraid or else you will view them as opportunists trying to seek majorities during a pandemic. Recently elected premiers want you to be afraid so then you won't question the societal changes they are trying to implement using covid as an excuse. 

[spanky123]

hopefully the increased numbers are just the result of a final summer fling at labour day.

 

ontario hit a new record for testing yesterday at nearly 40,000.

 

The increased numbers are entirely expected and what many of us warned about since day one. We didn't "flatten the curve" we delayed it. Instead of having people get infected in the summer when they were off school and had strengthened immune systems, we are seeing them infected in the fall when the opposite is true.

 

The impact will be that as much of the world is back close to near normal economic activity, we will suffer again for another 6-12 months.

Edited by spanky123, 20 September 2020 - 10:52 AM.

[Rob Randall]

^Come on, man, cut out the malarkey. It's not reasonable to think that was a viable plan of action in the summer. Nobody was looking at the numbers coming out of Spain and Italy six months ago and saying, hey, let's try that and hope for better results.

[Mike K.]

CDC now says covid spreads through airborne droplets, not surfaces.

[Victoria Watcher]

the surface idea has been pretty much eliminated. we are not seeing it from mail or packages or groceries or food/plates. or cash even though some places won’t take cash.

[Wayne]

With the increased numbers in the provinces and some setting new daily case records and active case records, good thing the Feds spent all the money.

[Victoria Watcher]

With the increased numbers in the provinces and some setting new daily case records and active case records, good thing the Feds spent all the money.

hospitalisations are 10% of what they were in may. our track is OK.

[todd]

CDC now says covid spreads through airborne droplets, not surfaces.

This week.

[exc911ence]

With the increased numbers in the provinces and some setting new daily case records and active case records, good thing the Feds spent all the money.

 

Cases are increasing because testing is increasing, but just because someone tests positive doesn't mean that they're at risk, or even sick. It's well publicized that 50% are false positives anyway so the case-count is completely arbitrary and useless.

 

Are more people dying here now than last week? Last month? Six months ago? The answer is a firm no. But that doesn't sell lockdowns and the surrender of civil liberties, so cases it is!

 

Until I'm stepping over dead bodies in the street, I will continue to believe that this whole thing has been blown completely out of proportion due to disinformation and fear-mongering, and every step taken in this journey has been the wrong one.

 

Is there a nasty virus floating around? Yes. Is it nasty enough to shut the entire world down over? Far from it.

 

At this stage though, no one in power wants to admit that they made mistakes, nor do they want to give up their newfound power and control. It's a political second wave now, not a medical one.