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#17841 amor de cosmos

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 10:01 AM

Roughly 221 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine have been dispensed thus far in the United States, compared with about 150 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine. In a half-dozen studies published over the past few weeks, Moderna’s vaccine appeared to be more protective than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in the months after immunization.
 
The latest such study, published Wednesday in The New England Journal of Medicine, evaluated the real-world effectiveness of the vaccines at preventing symptomatic illness in about 5,000 health care workers in 25 states. The study found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine had an effectiveness of 88.8%, compared with Moderna’s 96.3%.
 
If the efficacy gap continues to widen, it may have implications for the debate on booster shots. Federal agencies this week are evaluating the need for a third shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for some high-risk groups, including older adults.
 
Scientists who were initially skeptical of the reported differences between the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines have slowly become convinced that the disparity is small but real.
 
“Our baseline assumption is that the mRNA vaccines are functioning similarly, but then you start to see a separation,” said Natalie Dean, a biostatistician at Emory University in Atlanta. “It’s not a huge difference, but at least it’s consistent.”
 
But the discrepancy is small and the real-world consequences uncertain, because both vaccines are still highly effective at preventing severe illness and hospitalization, she and others cautioned.
 
“Yes, likely a real difference, probably reflecting what’s in the two vials,” said John Moore, a virus expert at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York. “But truly, how much does this difference matter in the real world?”
 
“It’s not appropriate for people who took Pfizer to be freaking out that they got an inferior vaccine.”

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#17842 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 10:09 AM

Father urges people to get vaccinated after daughter, 29, dies of COVID-19
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“..Juliana, a James Bay photographer and florist, was immuno-compromised after a kidney transplant in her teens, and chose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19 for fear of possible side-effects…”

“..Her father said Juliana was careful about COVID. She quit her job as a florist in March 2020 to reduce her risk, but she heard differing opinions from doctors on vaccination because of the drugs she took to support her kidney, and was deeply affected by the experience of a friend “who almost died from the vaccine,” her father said…”



#17843 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:03 AM

1.5 million Canadians (extrapolated that’s more than 13,000 Victorians) have survived the virus.

Can we have some of their stories too? or are only the extremely rare outcomes worthy of full-length stories?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 September 2021 - 11:04 AM.


#17844 Ismo07

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:05 AM

“..Juliana, a James Bay photographer and florist, was immuno-compromised after a kidney transplant in her teens, and chose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19 for fear of possible side-effects…”

“..Her father said Juliana was careful about COVID. She quit her job as a florist in March 2020 to reduce her risk, but she heard differing opinions from doctors on vaccination because of the drugs she took to support her kidney, and was deeply affected by the experience of a friend “who almost died from the vaccine,” her father said…”

 

Yes unfortunately fear is killing many people, thanks to those spreading it.. Great job...



#17845 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:07 AM

1.5 million Canadians (extrapolated that’s more than 13,000 Victorians) have survived the virus.

So far with the variations that have come out so far. 



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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:08 AM

Yes unfortunately fear is killing many people, thanks to those spreading it.. Great job...

She had some very good arguments? The article suggests her doctor told her not to

 

And with the kidney transplant that might be reasonable


Edited by todd, 23 September 2021 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:09 AM

the photo suggests she was not in all the most healthy categories, despite what her father says. I know it’s not politically correct to discuss though,

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 September 2021 - 11:10 AM.


#17848 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:16 AM

the photo suggests she was not in all the most healthy categories, despite what her father says. I know it’s not politically correct to discuss though,

now maybe other people should get vaccinated for her?

 

 

we have drafted people in the past with the potential to get shot.  Probably mandatory vaccinations once enlisted also


Edited by todd, 23 September 2021 - 11:32 AM.


#17849 Ismo07

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:28 AM

1.5 million Canadians (extrapolated that’s more than 13,000 Victorians) have survived the virus.

Can we have some of their stories too? or are only the extremely rare outcomes worthy of full-length stories?

 

Millions drive safely, need need to discuss those instances...  Surviving the virus stories will boost the narrative that most people do not need the vaccine, which in turn would lead to more people dying of the virus.  SMH


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#17850 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:33 AM

Millions drive safely, need need to discuss those instances...  Surviving the virus stories will boost the narrative that most people do not need the vaccine, which in turn would lead to more people dying of the virus.  SMH

Lots of people can’t drive due to medical reasons.



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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:41 AM

Lots of people can’t drive due to medical reasons.

 

Not lots.. More say they can't than actually can't...


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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:51 AM

Not lots.. More say they can't than actually can't...

 

more people refuse driver licenses than refuse vaccines.



#17853 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:51 AM

Not lots.. More say they can't than actually can't...

Most won’t give them a ride either.

#17854 Ismo07

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 12:38 PM

more people refuse driver licenses than refuse vaccines.

 

Great point...



#17855 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 01:22 PM

^Is that true?



#17856 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 01:35 PM

^Is that true?

 

it's well under 85% of people over 16.

 

https://dailyhive.co...uver-statistics

 

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#17857 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 02:58 PM

^If I recall correctly 2004 was about the year that the novice drivers license system was established. making it longer to get your drivers license and less appealing

 

 

 

“..According to the report, the decline coincides with new learning standards that make the driver’s licensing process more challenging, the introduction and widespread expansion of the U-Pass program in 2003, the increase in gasoline prices, and the expansion of transit such as the Millennium Line, Canada Line and increased bus service…”


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Posted 23 September 2021 - 03:31 PM

^If I recall correctly 2004 was about the year that the novice drivers license system was established. making it longer to get your drivers license and less appealing

 

1998 the GLP was introduced.


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Posted 23 September 2021 - 05:08 PM

COVID-19: Five more deaths, 832 new cases in B.C. amid surge in Fraser Health

 

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#17860 todd

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Posted 23 September 2021 - 06:53 PM

1998 the GLP was introduced.


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