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#17881 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 06:27 AM

September 3, 2021:

 

 

Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam released new COVID-19 modelling today that warns Canada could see up to 15,000 cases per day by the end of the month if the rate of vaccination does not increase and more restrictive public health measures are not introduced.

 

"This is a crucial moment," Tam said. "We have a window of opportunity to rapidly accelerate vaccine uptake and close the protection gap in younger age groups with the lowest vaccine coverage."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...efing-1.6163865

 

 

Ontario is reporting 466 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, which is lower than it was a week ago at 574. The provincial case total now stands at 570,030.

 

Of the 466 new cases recorded, the data showed 277 were unvaccinated people, 27 were partially vaccinated people, 119 were fully vaccinated people and for 43 people the vaccination status was unknown.

 

 

https://globalnews.c..._medium=twitter


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Posted 28 September 2021 - 07:00 AM

September 3, 2021:

 

 

Chief Public Health Officer Dr. Theresa Tam released new COVID-19 modelling today that warns Canada could see up to 15,000 cases per day by the end of the month if the rate of vaccination does not increase and more restrictive public health measures are not introduced.

 

"This is a crucial moment," Tam said. "We have a window of opportunity to rapidly accelerate vaccine uptake and close the protection gap in younger age groups with the lowest vaccine coverage."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...efing-1.6163865

 

 

 

(YESTERDAY)

 

Quebec is reporting 519 new cases of COVID-19 today, the lowest number of new daily cases in nearly three weeks.

 

The province has reported an average of 680 new COVID-19 cases a day over the past seven days.

 

https://montreal.cit...-rise-slightly/


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 September 2021 - 07:06 AM.


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Posted 28 September 2021 - 08:10 AM

(actually there's no *controversy* or debate concerning this guy; he's just a crazy anti-mask/anti-vax lunatic & everyone knows it)
A video posted to Twitter shows controversial conservative Pastor Artur Pawlowski being arrested Monday at the airport in Calgary. He spent four months in the United States speaking to conservative media and spreading lies about the COVID-19 vaccine in speeches, reported Canadian Global News.
https://www.rawstory...rtur-pawlowski/
 

An Ontario farm where an outbreak of COVID-19 affected more than 200 workers, including a man from Mexico who later died, now faces 20 charges following an inspection by the provincial Labour Ministry.

Charges filed with the Ontario Court of Justice under the Occupational Health and Safety Act say Scotlynn Sweetpac Growers Inc. and its owner, Scott Biddle, failed to take "every precaution reasonable" to protect workers from COVID-19 infection on the vegetable farm in Vittoria, located about 75 kilometres south of Hamilton. 

Scores of workers tested positive for COVID-19 in an outbreak in the spring of 2020. Juan Lopez Chaparro, a 55-year-old from Mexico, died in June that year after working at the farm.

The charges, which have not been proven in court, say the farm and its owner failed to protect workers in the following ways:

  • Workers weren't informed about the need to wear face coverings.
  • Workers didn't have access to hand hygiene facilities. 
  • There was a lack of cleaning on touch surfaces. 
  • Workers with a higher likelihood of transmitting COVID-19 and those showing symptoms weren't given information or instructions to self-isolate.  
CBC News called Scotlynn group for comment on Monday after 5 p.m. ET and was told by an employee who answered the phone to call back on Tuesday.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...fines-1.6191405
 
A team of international researchers, including McGill Professor Stéphane Laporte, have discovered the working mechanism of potential drug targets for various diseases such as cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, and even COVID-19. The findings published in Molecular Cell uncover the inner workings of cell receptors that are involved in cancer progression and inflammatory diseases.
https://www.alphagal...y/ItemId/212976
 

The most complete studies on the variants of the coronavirus that dominated the first waves in Spain have just been published in Nature Genetics. The study was carried out by the SeqCOVID consortium, which includes more than 50 Spanish institutions led by the University of Valencia, the Institute of Biomedicine of Valencia (IBV, CSIC) and the Fisabio Foundation.
 
A year and a half after the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the most complete scientific study on the variants of the coronavirus that circulated in Spain during the ‘first wave’ has been published. The study identifies nine variants of the virus that dominated the pandemic between the months of March and June 2020. Among them, the two most common came from a lineage of SARS-CoV-2 abundant in Asian countries at that time, although the virus arrived mainly by contacts from European countries with more than 500 introductions, according to the study published by Nature Genetics. The work concludes that the imposed confinement served to drastically reduce the transmission of these variants, even the most contagious ones, which were replaced by others as of the summer of 2020 when control measures were eased.
 
The study used 2,500 samples of patients diagnosed in Spain during the first wave of the pandemic, collected by 40 hospitals and sequenced by the SeqCOVID consortium, a research team made up of more than 50 Spanish institutions and hundreds of researchers who lead the University of Valencia, the Institute of Biomedicine of Valencia (IBV, CSIC) and the Foundation for the Promotion of Health and Biomedical Research of the Valencian Community (Fisabio). The samples analysed represent 1% of all cases diagnosed in the first wave (14% before lockdown).
 
The research team identified 9 variants of the virus (called SEC, English Spanish Epidemic Clades), which were the ones that dominated this first wave in Spain. Two of them (SEC7 and SEC8) were the first detected in the country and the predominant ones during that period, and are associated with at least two known super-dispersion events: the Atalanta-Valencia match of the Champions League and a funeral in Vitoria, although Early foci are identified in other parts of the country. There was not a single introduction of the virus in Spain, but rather multiple independent entries (at least 500), from different international origins. These occurred mainly during February and March 2020, before the implementation of the control measures.

https://www.alphagal...y/ItemId/212973
 

HERSHEY, Pa. — A type of drug already used to treat obesity and Type 2 diabetes, when taken six months prior to the diagnosis of COVID-19, was associated with a decreased risk of hospitalization, respiratory complications and death in COVID-19 patients with Type 2 diabetes, according to researchers at Penn State College of Medicine. The team, which analyzed electronic medical records of patients with type 2 diabetes, concludes that the drugs, called glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor (GLP-1R) agonists, should be further evaluated for potential protective effects against COVID-19 complications.
 
“Our results are very promising as GLP-1R agonist treatment appears to be highly protective, but more research is needed to establish a causal relationship between the use of these drugs and decreased risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes in patients with Type 2 diabetes,” said Patricia “Sue” Grigson, professor and chair of the Department of Neural and Behavioral Sciences.

https://news.psu.edu...severe-covid-19
https://www.scienced...10927132058.htm
 

Specific and dynamic changes on electrocardiograms (EKGs) of hospitalized patients with COVID-19 or influenza can help predict a timeframe for worsening health and death, according to a new Mount Sinai study. The work, published in the September 24 online issue of the American Journal of Cardiology, shows that shrinking waveforms on these tests can be used to help better identify high-risk patients and provide them more aggressive monitoring and treatment.  
 
“Our study shows diminished waveforms on EKGs over the course of COVID-19 illness can be an important tool for health care workers caring for these patients, allowing them to catch rapid clinical changes over their hospital stay and intervene more quickly. With COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations continuing to rise again, EKGs may be helpful for hospitals to use when caring for these patients before their condition gets dramatically worse,” says senior author Joshua Lampert, MD, Cardiac Electrophysiology fellow at The Mount Sinai Hospital. “This is particularly useful in overwhelmed systems, as there is no wait for blood work to return and this test can be performed by the majority of health care personnel. Additionally, the EKG can be done at the time of other bedside patient care, eliminating the potential exposure of another health care worker to COVID-19.”

https://www.mountsin...luenza-patients
https://www.scienced...10924182525.htm
 
A Daily Pill to Treat Covid Could Be Just Months Away, Scientists Say
At least three promising antiviral treatments for COVID-19 are being tested in clinical trials, with results expected as soon as late fall or winter.
https://www.govexec....sts-say/185629/

1 in 5 Dutch youth faced domestic abuse in 1st year of COVID-19: Report
12% of young people aged 16-24 suffered violence, 5% subjected to sexual violence, says Statistics Netherlands report
https://www.aa.com.t...-report/2377032

A Kaiser Permanente analysis of more than 100,000 pregnancies in Northern California found a 25% increase in the rate of cannabis use early in pregnancy after the pandemic began in spring 2020.
https://www.bostongl...uring-pandemic/
 

Nearly half the world’s population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. But figures vary widely between countries. Many low and middle-income countries have barely started their vaccination campaigns.
 
But the tiny Himalayan nation of Bhutan isn’t one of them. By the end of July, it had fully vaccinated 90% of its adults. Despite having few doctors and nurses, across just three weeks in the summer it delivered a second vaccine dose to nearly every adult in the country. This is a remarkable success story for one of the least developed countries in the world.
 
Health minister Dechen Wangmo credits solidarity, Bhutan’s small size and its science-based policymaking for its success. Its achievement highlights how logistical challenges and vaccine hesitancy can be overcome.

https://theconversat...-rollout-168341

Year 2020 was the worst for the Palestinian Authority (PA) since its establishment in 1994 due to the Israeli occupation and the coronavirus pandemic, the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) said on Tuesday.
https://www.aa.com.t...2020-un/2377020
 
On Monday, The New York Times reported that the wife of Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro stirred outrage in her home country following reports that she got vaccinated in New York City during the United Nations conference.
https://www.rawstory...w-york-vaccine/
 

French vaccine giant Sanofi announced positive results of a Phase 1/2 clinical trial of its first mRNA vaccine on Tuesday, saying the early findings with a Covid-19 vaccine give the company confidence to shift gears on its mRNA program to pursue vaccines for other pathogens. The first in its sights is an influenza vaccine Sanofi hopes to begin testing in clinical trials next year.
 
Sanofi will not be developing an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine, Thomas Triomphe, global head of vaccines, told STAT in an interview. By the time the company could bring a Covid mRNA vaccine through the authorization process, that market will have been saturated, he said.
 
If Sanofi were to pursue a Covid mRNA vaccine, it would have clinical trial results to apply for a license by, at best, the last quarter of 2022 or the first quarter of 2023. By then other manufacturers could have produced in the range of 40 billion doses of Covid vaccines — enough to vaccinate everyone on earth several times over, Triomphe said. Trying to get into the market at that point “doesn’t make sense,” he said.

https://www.statnews...ther-pathogens/
 
Un premier lot de vaccins russes Spoutnik V produit au Vietnam
http://www.newspress...SS-FR-NP-0.aspx

Russia spends around $4.1 bln on coronavirus treatment in hospitals in 2021
https://tass.com/world/1343337

1,000 makeshift quarantine rooms to be built by Wednesday amid COVID-19 resurgence in Fujian (Gallery)
http://www.ecns.cn/h...pe0572091.shtml

US President Joe Biden received a Covid-19 vaccine booster on Monday and told Americans still resisting the shots that they are damaging the country.
Biden rolled up his left sleeve in the White House and got a third Pfizer dose in line with the recently approved health guidance, which allows boosters for those 65 or older.
"I know it doesn't look like it, but I am over 65," Biden, 78, joked.
https://english.alar...ne-booster-shot
 

As Congress launched a historic bailout to keep businesses afloat at the outset of the pandemic, government officials stressed that the loans were for mom-and-pop operations that didn’t have another easily available lifeline.
 
“This was a program designed for small businesses,” then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said, as companies like Shake Shack and Potbelly made headlines for grabbing millions from the newly created Paycheck Protection Program. “It was not a program that was designed for public companies that had liquidity.”
 
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy was even clearer. “We will go after those big companies that cheat the system,” he told Fox News that spring.
 
But the tough talk hasn’t translated into action. Instead, a ProPublica review has found, the government gave out generous loans to companies that may not have needed them. And it has often forgiven the loans, despite having said that publicly traded companies would be unlikely to merit such generous treatment.

https://www.propubli...em-not-to-apply
 

Homicides in the United States rose nearly 30 percent in 2020 from 2019, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)'s Uniform Crime Report for 2020 published on Monday.
 
"In 2020, there were an estimated 1,277,696 violent crimes," the agency said in a statement. Among them, 38,520 reported cases were homicides. The homicide rate per 100,000 people in the country was 6.5 in 2020.
 
The 2020 jump in homicides marked the "largest single-year increase" that the FBI has seen since it began collecting the data in the 1960s, according to a CNN report.
 
There were more than 21,500 murders in 2000, the biggest number since the mid 1990s, said the report, noting the murder rate in 2020 was about 6.5 per 100,000 people, about 40 percent below what it was in the 1980s and 1990s, when homicides peaked in the country.
 
Violent crime in the United States went up by 5 percent from 2019 to 2020, while overall crime fell 6 percent during the same period, the FBI data showed.

http://www.ecns.cn/n...pe0571805.shtml
https://theconversat...-in-2020-168823

U.S. State Department spokesperson Ned Price said on Monday that he had tested positive for COVID-19.
http://www.ecns.cn/n...pe0571902.shtml

Flags in Kansas to fly at half-staff to mark 6,000 COVID-19 deaths
https://thehill.com/...covid-19-deaths
 

More recently, the racial gaps — while still existing — have narrowed. The partisan gap, however, continues to be enormous. A Pew Research Center poll last month found that 86 percent of Democratic voters had received at least one shot, compared with 60 percent of Republican voters.

*snip*

Because the vaccines are so effective at preventing serious illness, Covid deaths are also showing a partisan pattern. Covid is still a national crisis, but the worst forms of it are increasingly concentrated in red America.

As is often the case, state-by-state numbers can understate the true pattern, because every state has both liberal and conservative areas. When you look at the county level, the gap can look even starker.

Below is a set of charts, created by my colleague Ashley Wu, that offers a close-up of one typical red state, Wyoming, and one typical blue state, Maryland:

https://www.nytimes....ccinations.html
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American conservatives’ fixation with far right foreign leaders continued on Monday night, as Newsmax host Grant Stinchfield and guest Dennis Prager praised President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil.
 
Stinchfield said the United States needs to “take cues from Brazil” when it comes the policies regarding Covid-19 mandates, namely, that there shouldn’t be any. The Newsmax host aired multiple clips of Bolsonaro giving lip service to notions of individual freedom, throughout which Stinchfield peppered the far right leader with praise.
 
“In Trump-like fashion, he has turned his nation around by embracing freedom,” he said, while also lying that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin have been “quite effective” against Covid-19.
 
Stinchfield’s guest also heaped praise on Bolsonaro.
 
“I am going to go on the internet right after your show, and I am going to get the transcription of his talk. and then edit it and play it on my show,” said Prager. “It is remarkable to hear what the man says. I hate to say this because I so love this country; it makes me want to learn Portuguese and move there.”

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 08:28 AM

 

(YESTERDAY)

 

Quebec is reporting 519 new cases of COVID-19 today, the lowest number of new daily cases in nearly three weeks.

 

The province has reported an average of 680 new COVID-19 cases a day over the past seven days.

 

https://montreal.cit...-rise-slightly/

 

 

TODAY:

 

 

COVID-19 cases drop again as Quebec reports 469 more infections, hospitalizations spike

https://montreal.ctv...spike-1.5603413

 

 

 

Hospitalizations "spike"?

 

 

 

Quebec's Health Ministry said 37 more people entered the hospital for treatment and 15 were discharged, meaning hospitalizations rose by 22 for a total of 321. Of those, 94 people are in intensive care wards. Nine people entered ICUs, and 10 were discharged.

 

 

 


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 September 2021 - 08:29 AM.


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Posted 28 September 2021 - 09:06 AM

Fraser Health did not name the pharmacy it had suspended or how many patients were given a COVID-19 vaccine with a reused syringe.
 
It said the pharmacy was part of a provincial pilot program in which residents use a provincial booking system to be vaccinated at the pharmacy.
 
Corinn Jockisch said she went for her second COVID-19 vaccine dose at the Ultracare Guardian Pharmacy in New Westminster, east of Vancouver, on Aug. 25. This week, she received a letter from Fraser Health asking her to call a public health nurse.
 
https://www.cbc.ca/n...eused-1.6190052
 
Jockisch, 35, was then told that the pharmacy had reused syringes and that she could be at risk of contracting illnesses such as Hepatitis C, Hepatitis B and HIV as a result.


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Posted 28 September 2021 - 02:29 PM

British Columbia won’t be offering third doses of COVID-19 vaccine to those with mixed immunizations, says the province’s top doctor.

https://globalnews.c...top-doctor/amp/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 September 2021 - 02:30 PM.


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Labour shortage hampering post-pandemic recovery for businesses in Canada, study finds
55% of entrepreneurs can't find enough workers, leading to delays, limiting growth
https://www.cbc.ca/n...y-bdc-1.6192644
 

As the global pandemic has unfolded, it has become clear that some people have much more serious symptoms when contracting COVID-19 than others. Indeed, some people have been found to exhibit no symptoms at all, while others become so sick that they die. In this new effort, the researchers conducted extensive interferon-stimulated gene expression screening to isolate possible enzymes involved in alerting the immune system to an infection. Interferons are signaling proteins that alert the body when invasive entities such as bacteria and viruses are detected.
 
The work by the researchers led them to OAS1, an enzyme that reacts to interferon signaling by calling for an immune response when the SARS-CoV-2 virus is detected. Prior research has shown that OAS1 attaches to membranes using a prenyl group as part of the signaling process. Prior research has also shown that this signaling can inhibit replication of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Noting its value in protecting people against COVID-19, the researchers looked at the transcriptomes of 500 COVID-19 patients who had experienced a wide range of symptoms and found that those who did not have prenylated OAS1 experienced much more severe symptoms. Why some people are born without the enzyme is still a mystery, but the work by the team could help lead to new types of vaccines against COVID-19 and other types of infections.

https://medicalxpres...ant-covid-.html
 

A set of 7 symptoms, considered together, can be used to maximize detection of COVID-19 in the community, according to a new paper published this week in PLOS Medicine by Marc Chadeau-Hyam and Paul Elliott of Imperial College London, UK, and colleagues.
 
The rapid detection of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the community is key to ensuring efficient control of transmission. When testing capacity is limited, it is important to use tests in the most efficient way possible, including using the most informative symptoms for test allocation. In the new study, researchers obtained throat and nose swabs with valid SARS-CoV-2 PCR test results from 1,147,345 volunteers in England aged 5 years and above. The data were collected over 8 testing rounds conducted between June 2020 and January 2021 as part of the REal-time Assessment of Community Transmission-1 (REACT-1) study. Participants were asked about symptoms they experienced in the week prior to testing.
 
A model was developed based on the data obtained during rounds 2 to 7, with 7 symptoms selected as jointly positively predictive of PCR positivity: loss or change of smell, loss or change of taste, fever, new persistent cough, chills, appetite loss, and muscle aches. The first 4 of those symptoms are currently used in the UK to determine eligibility for community PCR testing. In round 8 of testing, the resulting model predicted PCR positivity with an area under the curve of 0.77, and testing people in the community with at least 1 of the 7 selected positively predictive symptoms gave sensitivity, specificity, and positive predictive values of 74%, 64%, and 9.7%, respectively. Modeling suggested that the use of the 7 symptoms identified for PCR test allocation would result in 30% to 40% of symptomatic individuals in England being eligible for a test (versus 10% currently) and, if all those eligible were tested, would result in the detection of 70% to 75% of positive cases.

https://www.scienced...10928141836.htm
https://journals.plo...al.pmed.1003777

At least one long-term symptom seen in 37% of COVID-19 patients -study
https://www.reuters....udy-2021-09-29/
 

A senior Garda has been appointed to oversee an investigation into an incident during which a Covid patient was encouraged to leave a Co Donegal hospital against medical advice.
 
The patient, Joe McCarron (67) from Dungloe was readmitted to Letterkenny University Hospital (LUH) a day later and put on a ventilator. He died on Friday without regaining consciousness and was buried on Sunday afternoon.
 
In a widely shared video Antonio Mureddu, an Italian restaurant owner with a long history of conspiratorial and far-right activism, claimed to be “rescuing” Mr McCarron, and falsely claimed that treatment in the hospital would “kill” the patient.
 
One doctor told Mr McCarron that leaving the hospital would risk “endangering” his life. “It’s a very difficult disease that you have, and I’m not lying to you, you could die, but this could be your best chance in the hospital,” the staff member told the patient.
 
“It’s better that he die in the house than he dies here,” Mr Mureddu responded before escorting the patient out of the hospital. “We are so happy we have saved Joe’s life,” he said in a later video, before Mr McCarron was rushed back to the hospital.

https://www.irishtim...ident-1.4684246
via https://www.dailykos...-doctor-s-pleas

Philippines approves COVID-19 jabs for children as young as 12
http://alriyadhdaily...dbdddc7625e7bd8
 
Российская вакцина «КовиВак» на 98,4% защищает от COVID-19 и на 99,1% — от тяжелой формы болезни. Об этом 29 сентября сообщила ТАСС директор по качеству Центра исследований и разработки иммунобиологических препаратов им. М.П. Чумакова Александра Синюгина.
The Russian vaccine "KoviVac" protects 98.4% against COVID-19 and 99.1% against a severe form of the disease. On September 29, the director for quality of the Center for Research and Development of Immunobiological Preparations named after V.I. M.P. Chumakov Alexander Sinyugin.
https://iz.ru/122857...aktciny-kovivak
 

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - United Airlines is terminating nearly 600 employees for failing to get vaccinated for the novel coronavirus, the company said in a statement to Sputnik.

These employees account for less than 1 percent of its US workforce, according to a company memo attached to the statement.
 

"I can also confirm that 593 employees chose not to comply with the vaccine requirement and as a result, we’ve started the process to separate them from the company," the statement said on Tuesday.


The company extended the deadline for those who applied for a medical or religious accommodation, the memo said, which media outlets reported as amounting to around 2,000. The company said they did so "in light of a pending court case."

 

https://sputniknews....1089501577.html

Vaccine requirements in schools are far from being a new concept. As the question continues to be debated whether your local school will mandate a COVID-19 vaccine for students, it's important to take a look back at the history of vaccine requirements -- because vaccinations have been required for a long, long time.
https://www.cnet.com...f-requirements/
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#17888 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 10:09 AM

Quebec reported 594 new COVID-19 cases and the pandemic-related deaths of seven people Wednesday as hospitalizations dropped.

 

There were 306 patients in hospitals across the province, a drop of 15. Health officials say 30 people entered in the past day while 45 patients were discharged.

 

https://globalnews.c...tember-29-2021/

 

 

Ontario reports fewer than 500 new COVID-19 cases for 2nd straight day

 

https://globalnews.c...29-coronavirus/

 

 

 

Alberta (yesterday) identified more than 1,246 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday.

 

There are now 20,513 active cases of the virus in the province, to go along with the 271,608 recovered cases.

 

Provincially, 1,100 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, with 263 of those individuals in intensive care units. In the Central zone, 186 are hospitalized, with 21 in intensive care.

 

https://www.ponokane...ses-in-alberta/


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#17889 spanky123

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 10:44 AM

Have a buddy whose partner has tested positive for covid but is not showing symptoms himself. Tried to get an appointment for testing and was told no.

 

Looks like we are back to testing games again to keep counts down.



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 10:47 AM

Have a buddy whose partner has tested positive for covid but is not showing symptoms himself. Tried to get an appointment for testing and was told no.

 

Looks like we are back to testing games again to keep counts down.

 

Feel like that's how we should've been doing it since the beginning.  Self assess, shouldn't test everyone.  But early we didn't know enough.  It's been like this for a while I think...



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 10:57 AM

Feel like that's how we should've been doing it since the beginning.  Self assess, shouldn't test everyone.  But early we didn't know enough.  It's been like this for a while I think...

 

Except that we are told that asymptomatic people also transmit the virus. If someone has a high chance of being infected then they should know.

 

Point though is that we need to be careful comparing ourselves to other regions. In the US as an example, most states allow free testing to anyone regardless of whether they have symptoms or not.



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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:16 AM

British Columbia won’t be offering third doses of COVID-19 vaccine to those with mixed immunizations, says the province’s top doctor.

https://globalnews.c...top-doctor/amp/

 

I guess that means that Horgan and our other 'leaders' who received AZ won't be able to travel outside of Canada, or?


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#17893 Ismo07

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:22 AM

Except that we are told that asymptomatic people also transmit the virus. If someone has a high chance of being infected then they should know.

 

Point though is that we need to be careful comparing ourselves to other regions. In the US as an example, most states allow free testing to anyone regardless of whether they have symptoms or not.

 

 

Asymptomatic potentially can transmit yes, I believe it's less though.  Does he really have a high change of being infected?  Is your buddy vaxxed? Maybe that has something to do with it too...  Obviously I'm assuming she is isolating and they are not in contact.  Last year when I was in the same room, likely 20 ft away and both masked, with someone you tested positive after, they asked me many questions.  Choice was to isolate and self monitor or get tested then isolate and wait for result.  Now this was only about 6 months into the ordeal, but still thought it was a little overkill...  Yesterday they did over 11,500 tests and found 650 positive..  5.6%... Back in the day I think it was under 2%....  I'm not sure they are missing many people, like I've been saying the probably have a better handle on it than you and I.


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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:23 AM

^^ I know Mrs. Sparky is going to be pissed when I climb onto the jet for Hawaii and she is left standing at the gate.
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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:30 AM

Island Health has identified 50 exposure events at local K-12 schools thus far this September, including clusters at three schools, two of which had alerts identifying clusters twice.

 

Imagine, in a class of 25 kids (let's say on average), that's 1,250 potentially exposed students, not including teachers or other staff. In total those exposures reasonably relate to 1,300 individuals being exposed. Those 1,300 then go on to expose at least one parent or guardian or partner, doubling the exposure to 2,600. It can take days for Island Health to identify an exposure, and a need for people to monitor for symptoms. Very quickly, those 50 exposure events could be related to over 5,000 potential person exposures, which very quickly can relate to 10,000 potential person exposures in the community.


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#17896 Sparky

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:35 AM

Mike put your calculator away. You are scaring me.
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#17897 Nparker

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:41 AM

I guess it's time to close the schools again.



#17898 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:43 AM

and only about 30 kids have died all across the country since the start.

more have died from drowning. exponentially more in car crashes.

30 kids died this month from suicide alone.

you have to understand the risks.

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#17899 Mike K.

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:48 AM

and only about 30 kids have died all across the country since the start.

more have died from drowning. exponentially more in car crashes.

30 kids died this month from suicide alone.

you have to understand the risks.

 

Yes, but they are spreading the disease to adults who are dying.


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#17900 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 11:49 AM

So? Adults are responsible for themselves.

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