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#621 sebberry

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Posted 22 July 2020 - 07:42 AM

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The Mrs’ sister came over yesterday and we spoke about her work in the downtown service industry. They’ve begun turning non-locals away from their high profile establishment when they’re carded and their home is outside of BC. She said in one shift she had 12 Americans present IDs, most of whom had only recently arrived (they said). No respect for the quarantine whatsoever, and here to party.
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but why is there any more reason to suspect these people are infected any more so than say people from vancouver? it seems odd to me we treat travellers like they are likely contaminated when the statistics show they are almost as likely to be virus-free as your next door neighbour.

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It's the sort of smug arrogance at play that's the problem - no respect for the rules in place to help curb the spread of the virus.


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Posted 22 July 2020 - 12:22 PM

is the new westminster outbreak connected to burnaby?

 

is the esquimalt case linked to oak bay?

 

where do you draw the line?

 

If BC experiences an outbreak, we're less likely to screw over everyone else if we can keep within our own borders. From a jurisdictional perspective, it's the most practical way to limit travel. Towns experiencing localized outbreaks won't be quarantined on their own - specially since urban agglomerations transcend municipal boundaries.

 

And us Islanders have the luxury of, well, living in an island where travelers from outside have to observe COVID-19 protocols before getting here. The rest of the province doesn't. 



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Posted 22 July 2020 - 04:30 PM

We should build a wall around the Island and make Mainland BC pay for it.

 

And then get the Peninsula ALR land cranking out enough food so the CRD's present and future needs are 100% covered.

 

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 05:38 AM

No surprise here, we have been saying since day one that the CERB (or any form of guaranteed minimum income for that matter) results in people choosing not to work.

 

https://nationalpost...a-4327d4398f72/

 

Just so you know, the new CEWB program, which is supposed to wean people off of the CERB is so complicated that the summary document alone is 22 pages!



#625 exc911ence

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 08:59 AM

Wean? How about cutting them off cold-turkey like the Feds do when your E.I. runs out regardless of whether or not you've found work?



#626 Matt R.

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 10:52 AM

Wtf is the Cewb? Too many acronyms!

Cerb, CEWS, cecra, cesb, and now cewb?

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 01:40 PM

Wtf is the Cewb? Too many acronyms!

Cerb, CEWS, cecra, cesb, and now cewb?

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Sorry to shock you! CEWS.

 

Have you seen the new formula being proposed?


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Posted 24 July 2020 - 01:48 PM

the funny thing about the cews program is it has illuminated how financially derelict most small business owners are in this country. the level of sophistication is nearly non existent.

some of our small businesses are straight out of deliverance.

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 03:39 PM

Most small businesses in this country are criminal tax scammers according to our prime minister. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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Posted 24 July 2020 - 04:08 PM

Sorry to shock you! CEWS.
 
Have you seen the new formula being proposed?


Yes I have. We could potentially increase our subsidy for July, and I am glad they are doing a sliding scale as we would have been cut off for August. No bueno!

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 04:10 PM

the funny thing about the cews program is it has illuminated how financially derelict most small business owners are in this country. the level of sophistication is nearly non existent.
some of our small businesses are straight out of deliverance.


The fact that it’s so complicated is rough. I am sure there are many businesses out there not taking advantage because the submitting process is a bit overwhelming.

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 10:23 AM

Most small businesses in this country are criminal tax scammers according to our prime minister. They should be ashamed of themselves.

 

I don't know about being scammers but my guess is that a lot of them are not properly calculating benefits and/or are stretching a little if they are close.

 

When the CRA starts doing its audits next year you can bet that it will be the businesses that they target first and the ones they are most likely to enforce collection, penalties and interest.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 05:50 PM

bike to work week realizes that a lot of people are no longer "going to" work.

 

https://www.vicnews....-with-new-name/



#634 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 08:15 PM

Good grief.

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 09:59 AM

More than 6,000 tenants across Ontario could face eviction over rent that wasn’t paid during the pandemic, despite Premier Doug Ford promising that no one would be kicked out of their rental for nonpayment during COVID-19.

 

Between March 17 and July 19, Ontario’s Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB) processed 6,083 applications to evict tenants for not paying their rent and to collect any money that’s owed – an application known as an L1, according to Tribunals Ontario. Another 481 of what are known as L9s, which solely aim to enforce missed payments, were processed in the same period.

 

https://www.ourwinds...w-figures-show/


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Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:45 AM

 

More than 6,000 tenants across Ontario could face eviction over rent that wasn’t paid during the pandemic, despite Premier Doug Ford promising that no one would be kicked out of their rental for nonpayment during COVID-19.

 

Between March 17 and July 19, Ontario’s Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB) processed 6,083 applications to evict tenants for not paying their rent and to collect any money that’s owed – an application known as an L1, according to Tribunals Ontario. Another 481 of what are known as L9s, which solely aim to enforce missed payments, were processed in the same period.

 

https://www.ourwinds...w-figures-show/

 

 

In a non-Covid year how many people are evicted for not paying rent?



#637 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 10:50 AM

the article does not say.

 

but in left-leaning jurisdictions you can usually just pay the rent at the hearing and you get to stay.  it's not clear how many of the 6,000 owe 4 or 6 months rent or a portion.

 

the few examples at the end of the article make it look like those two renters don't really have much excuse for not paying.  they are/were both receiving cerb but have decided not to pay for fear of an uncertain financial future beyond october.


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Posted 27 July 2020 - 05:08 PM

the article does not say.

 

but in left-leaning jurisdictions you can usually just pay the rent at the hearing and you get to stay.  it's not clear how many of the 6,000 owe 4 or 6 months rent or a portion.

 

the few examples at the end of the article make it look like those two renters don't really have much excuse for not paying.  they are/were both receiving cerb but have decided not to pay for fear of an uncertain financial future beyond october.

 

in my mind there's no reason not to make an effort to pay your rent..i can understand for some they might not be able to pay all of their rent every month(if you live alone in a high rental market area for example) but if you are collecting cerb you are bringing in an income and can pay atleast some of your rent... make an effort streamline where you can and give your landlord something.. and if doesn't look like your job is coming back any time soon start looking for something else (or take a temporary job until your main job comes back... many seasonal workers do that).. i do not envy any landlord having to go through this at the moment..



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Posted 28 July 2020 - 05:08 AM

According to new figures from the Tourism Industry Association of BC (TIABC), accommodation revenues in Victoria dropped 86 per cent in June after dropping 90 per cent in both April and May.

https://www.vicnews....r-cent-in-june/

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 05:34 AM

Exactly what I have been saying, Victoria hotels being clobbered, elsewhere on the Island not so much. If you work in the tourism sector, it is time you have a conversation with your leaders and tell them to get their heads out of the Mayor’s butt and set aside their personal ambitions and start representing their members or step aside.

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