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#2121 Nparker

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 04:00 PM

On behalf of Canada, I apologize to the world for Justin's performance as Prime Minister.


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Posted 27 September 2023 - 05:13 PM

The ministry of truth is at work! They are looking at deleting the article on the NAZI. Look while you can do you too can experience it in real time.

https://en.m.wikiped.../Yaroslav_Hunka

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 07:17 PM

When the atrocities happened, the sky was blue, the birds sang, people had dreams, they had aspirations... not much different from today.

 

Life is precious. Make friends, try to be nice, and guide those around you to making good decision for themselves, and in doing so, for their community. We are not that different, even though in the moment, faced with something unfamiliar, we might think we are.

 

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#2124 LJ

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 07:17 PM

I watched the documentary Ordinary Men the other day, eye-opening to say the least.


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Posted 27 September 2023 - 07:37 PM

When the atrocities happened, the sky was blue, the birds sang, people had dreams, they had aspirations... not much different from today.

 

Life is precious. Make friends, try to be nice, and guide those around you to making good decision for themselves, and in doing so, for their community. We are not that different, even though in the moment, faced with something unfamiliar, we might think we are.

 

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Except for those in the camps.... But I fell ya. Life is beautiful. https://youtu.be/9lT...FEPo997ukso7KRI



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Posted 28 September 2023 - 08:08 AM

University of Alberta closes endowment fund named after Nazi veteran recognized in the House of Commons

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Posted 29 September 2023 - 08:02 PM

The president of the Ukrainian National Federation of Canada is defending a Second World War veteran of a Nazi unit who was recently lauded as a hero in Canada’s Parliament.

 

Jurij Klufas has not met 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka but says the veteran is being treated unfairly. He says Hunka was fighting for Ukraine – not Germany – and that countries, including Canada, have cleared his division of war crimes.

 

“If you’re a soldier doesn’t mean you’re a member of a certain party from the country,” Klufas said Friday in a phone interview. “In this case, the senior gentleman here was a soldier, in his understanding, fighting for Ukraine.”

 

Hunka received a standing ovation in the House of Commons on Sept. 22 after being introduced by the Speaker as “a Ukrainian hero and a Canadian hero’' during Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to Ottawa.

 

The incident drew widespread international criticism after it was revealed Hunka was a member of a mostly volunteer unit created by the Nazis to fight the Soviet Union. The revelation forced the resignation of Anthony Rota as Speaker and an apology on behalf of Parliament by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

 

Ivan Katchanovski, a Ukrainian-Canadian political science professor at the University of Ottawa, says the actions of Hunka’s Waffen-SS Galicia Division have been “whitewashed” in Canada.

 

He says supporters have tried to present the division as a patriotic Ukrainian force despite the fact it collaborated with Nazis and was involved in a variety of atrocities, including the killings of Jews, Ukrainians and Poles.

 

“They represent this division as fighting not for Nazi Germany, but fighting for Ukrainian independence, even though there was never any opportunity to fight for any Ukrainian independence,” he said. “They were fighting under German command until the end of World War II.”

 

He said the heroic interpretation is particularly prevalent in Canada, where many of the division's members immigrated under a controversial process that was opposed by Jewish groups.

 

 

 

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Posted 30 September 2023 - 07:15 PM

Nazi Hunter Proves ‘Trudeau KNEW He Was Applauding a Child-Killing Monster’

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau knew that 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, who received a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament, was a Nazi war criminal who allegedly killed children, according to bombshell evidence from Steven Rambam, a private investigator and Nazi hunter.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has refused to accept responsibility for what he describes as the “deeply embarrassing” incident in the national Parliament, where a Waffen SS veteran was celebrated by Canadian politicians and Ukrainian President Zelensky.

This was a mistake that has deeply embarrassed Parliament and Canada. All of us who were in this House on Friday deeply regret having stood and clapped even though we did so unaware of the context,” the Canadian PM said in a brief statement to journalists.

 

Still, Trudeau’s hypocrisy has been called out by Steven Rambam, a private investigator and Nazi hunter based in New York, publicly known for his pro bono activities, which have included tracking down nearly 200 Nazi collaborators and war criminals in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia.

This narrative that’s springing up that everyone was surprised, that it was a big shock and they can’t believe there’s such a person in Canada,” said Rambam. “It’s ridiculous. Look, this person made no secret of who he was. He even had a website until yesterday. He posted and disseminated photos of himself in his SS uniform. He wrote about his experiences in the SS 14th Grenadiers. There’s a scholarship in his name in a university in central Canada, in Alberta. I mean this is ludicrous that people could possibly have been surprised by who he was and what he did.”

Sputnik report: During the Second World War, Hunka served in the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, also known as SS Galichina. The unit was created by Nazi Germany in 1943 and was composed of Ukrainian nationalist militants. The division was responsible for the ethnic cleansings of Jews and Poles, which was committed with exceptional brutality.

“So this is not a small criminal. He didn’t pick someone’s pocket or steal $100 from a store. This is an alleged mass murderer who killed old people, allegedly, who allegedly killed children with his comrades in the SS Galicia Division,” Rambam noted, reiterating that it’s virtually impossible that the Canadian authorities were totally unaware about who Hunka is.

Poland’s Education Minister Przemyslaw Czarnek announced Tuesday that he had “taken steps” toward “the possible extradition of Yaroslav Hunka to Poland. The unit Hunka served in was particularly responsible for burning alive up to 1,000 Polish villagers, including elderly, women and children, in Huta Pieniacka in 1944.

“Does it help that they are finally threatening to bring him to justice? Yes,” said Rambam. “Is there any chance at all that this will happen? No, absolutely not. Canada does not extradite Nazi war criminals. They have never extradited a Nazi war criminal. This is not the only Nazi war criminal who was requested from Canada. And they are not extradited. They are not denaturalized. They are not deported like the US does. They are not prosecuted inside Canada, which they should be. Nothing is done to these people. I can give you a list of many, many more people who, frankly, were as bad or worse than Hunka and who died peacefully in their beds in Canada.”

Why Didn’t Former Nazi Soldiers Hide in Canada?

In fact, it did not take a lot of skill to find former Nazis in Canada as they never hid their real names, Rambam pointed out. “They were absolutely unafraid, unashamed. No remorse, no apology, no nothing,” he said.

“To tell you what I did, we very, very easily, disturbingly easily, were able to compile a list of approximately 1,000 alleged war criminals, Nazi war criminals, members of the Ukrainian units, members of the Latvian Arajs Kommando, murderers that committed crimes in Belorussia, the police units in Lithuania, the special Einsatzkommandos of the Nazis that went all across Europe with the so-called holocaust of bullets and gas vans. All of these people had representatives in Canada. Of the thousand, because we knew that we couldn’t pursue a thousand people, it would be a project for the next 15 years of our lives, we selected the 200 worst on the list.”

“I will tell you that one of them was a Ukrainian and the description of his crimes that we had from our sources, it was just one line ‘specialized in the murder of children.’ Specialized in the murder of children. So there are other Ukrainians like Mr. Hunka that came to Canada. Of these 200 people, as private persons, I mean, yes, we’re investigators, we have special skills, but we were operating not as law enforcement, but as private persons, we were able to find approximately 170 of them.”

 

Rambam managed to find one out of every three former Nazis just by looking in the phone book. The ex-militants did not bother to hide: they were so comfortable and so unafraid that they bought houses under their own names. They registered to vote in Canada, like good Canadian citizens. They took out business licenses. Some of them were notary publics, according to the Nazi hunter.

Only one of the people whose door Rambam knocked on refused to confirm his identity. Others willingly answered his questions and shared their wartime memories while he made undercover recordings during these interviews. The greatest challenge, per Rambam, was not to grab some of those guys who literally boasted of slaughtering the Jewish people. But he did his job professionally and did not give himself away.

“Your listeners may or may not know this, but I’m Jewish. And some of them, I was able to get them to tell me in detail about their crimes, horrible details,” Rambam said. “No normal person can listen to these people talk about, you know, the evil that they perpetrated and not be affected.”

Why Did Canada Become Safe Haven for Nazis?

Canada became a safe haven for ex-Nazi collaborators, Ukrainians in particular, because there was an enormous culture of anti-Semitism, hatred of Jews in Canada for many years, according to Rambam.

“It was easier to get into Canada as a Nazi war criminal than it was as a Jew trying to escape the Holocaust or a Jew who survived the Holocaust and just wanted to go and live somewhere where you couldn’t, you know, smell the gas chambers,” the private investigator said.

Rambam recalled a famous episode cited by Irving Abela, a Canadian historian and author of None is Too Many: Canada and the Jews of Europe 1933-1948, who wrote about Ottawa’s refusal to accept Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust. A potential immigrant who had been a member of the SS was interviewed by Immigration Canada about whether or not he should be allowed in. Immigration Canada’s only concern at that point was whether he was a communist. The man took off his shirt and showed the SS tattoo and he said that he had been killing communists. “And the gentleman from Immigration Canada said, welcome to Canada,” Rambam noted. “And this is a man whose entry to Canada was on the basis of being an SS fighter.”

“And I will tell you that the other Prime Minister Trudeau, the first prime minister, the father of the current PM, was asked directly, ‘Why aren’t you going after these horrible people that were mistakenly allowed into Canada?’ And he said quite bluntly, he says, ‘Listen, we don’t want to exacerbate ethnic tensions.’ That’s verbatim what he said. We don’t want to exacerbate ethnic tensions,” the private investigator stressed.

 

Trudeau Failed to Mention That Former Waffen SS Soldier Hunka is Monster

Rambam drew attention to the fact that Nazism is tolerated more than it used to be. Even though the Canadian government appears to lament the fact that it applauded the former Nazi, it still waters down the problem.

“I think the problem is that the example is being set incorrectly at the top. You know, you have Trudeau, Prime Minister Trudeau, who yesterday talked out of all the sides of his mouth about what happened. He said ‘It was a mistake. It was an accident. You should forgive us.’ At one point, one of my colleagues told me, he said it was Russian disinformation, literally said that.”

“He said everything except ‘Listen, this man is a monster. If what people are saying about this man is true, he’s a monster. He should have never been allowed into Canada. We are disgraced that this person is in Canada and that people like him are in Canada. And we are going to take every step. We are going to introduce new legislation. We are going to the courts. We are going to fight, to vomit these people out of Canada.’ But that’s not what he said. He made excuses. The deputy prime minister, a woman for whom I have no respect – same thing. ‘It was an accident. We made a mistake. We’re sorry.’ And then they sacrificed the person who invited him, and that’s it. It’s over. It’s finished in Canada,” Rambam concluded.


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#2129 max.bravo

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Posted 01 October 2023 - 12:58 AM

Sounds about right.

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Posted 01 October 2023 - 09:51 AM

Jurij Klufas has not met 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka but says the veteran is being treated unfairly. He says Hunka was fighting for Ukraine – not Germany – and that countries, including Canada, have cleared his division of war crimes.


Nonsense. Either you were allied with the Nazis, or you weren’t. I had family slain by the unit. Civilians. They were operating under the guise that if they cleared the Polish population of lands they wanted to overtake, the Nazis would grant them rights to those lands post-war.

Europe is a messed up place.
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#2131 Matt R.

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Posted 01 October 2023 - 05:56 PM

Sounds like there’s some inter generational trauma for everyone these days.
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#2132 Nparker

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Posted 02 October 2023 - 11:51 AM

We cannot tax our way to affordability. https://youtu.be/QjLa5ipi2Mc



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Posted 03 October 2023 - 03:37 AM

India tells Canada to withdraw 41 diplomats, report says, as diplomatic fight worsens

https://www.cbc.ca/n...rsens-1.6984817

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 10:06 AM

Quebec Liberal MP Greg Fergus was elected as the new speaker of the House of Commons on Tuesday.

 

Mr. Fergus was Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s parliamentary secretary until September and was strongly opposed by Conservatives in public. However, given the secret vote in the House how they voted is not public.

 

The MP from Hull-Aylmer, a riding in the National Capital Region, will be the first Black speaker of the House of Commons.

 

He beat out three other Liberal MPs, and a Conservative, NDP and Green MP.

 

The House of Commons vote for a new speaker was precipitated by Anthony Rota’s unprecedented resignation last week following his invitation of a member of a Nazi unit to the House during Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s official visit to Canada on Sept. 22.

 

Mr. Rota didn’t mention Yaroslav Hunka’s Nazi unit to the House and at the time called him ”a Ukrainian hero and a Canadian hero” of the Second World War and thanked him for his service. The audience, including Mr. Zelensky, rose to give the 98-year-old a standing ovation. Those pictures have since been used by the Kremlin to lend credibility to its justification for invading Ukraine.

 

 

 

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 10:08 AM

Douglas Murray:

 

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Perhaps I should say straight away that I love Canada. Some of my best friends are Canadian. That minimal throat-clearing aside, let me say — as a friendly outsider — that Canada today looks like a nation of ignoramuses.

 

The incident in Parliament the other week is just one case in point. Standing ovations are very rare things. They should be very special things. When a whole House stands to applaud someone they had better be very sure who they are applauding.

 

https://nationalpost...hocks-the-world


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Posted 03 October 2023 - 10:11 AM

Douglas Murray:

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Perhaps I should say straight away that I love Canada. Some of my best friends are Canadian. That minimal throat-clearing aside, let me say — as a friendly outsider — that Canada today looks like a nation of ignoramuses.


The incident in Parliament the other week is just one case in point. Standing ovations are very rare things. They should be very special things. When a whole House stands to applaud someone they had better be very sure who they are applauding.


https://nationalpost...hocks-the-world

They knew. Then they lied that they didn’t know. I can’t prove that of course. But the alternative is that they are complete idiots running this country. In the end the two options are equally horrible so what difference does it make? https://youtu.be/ww4...?feature=shared
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Posted 03 October 2023 - 11:40 AM

Rising prices have to stop, or we’ll never get inflation under control, is now the message?

Bank of Canada deputy governor Nicolas Vincent says businesses raising their prices more frequently than they did before the pandemic is contributing to higher-than-expected inflation.

Vincent made the comments Tuesday in his first speech as external non-executive deputy governor, a newly created role, to the Chamber of Commerce of Metropolitan Montreal.

In prepared remarks for his speech, which was delivered primarily in French, Vincent said price increases have been larger than normal and more frequent than before the pandemic — a trend that has persisted.

- https://www.cbc.ca/n...rofit-1.6985268

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 11:41 AM

BS is more frequent than before the pandemic as well.



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Posted 03 October 2023 - 11:55 AM

Interesting, right? It’s not the costs of doing business that are rising, it’s that businesses have discovered they can arbitrarily raise prices and government is at their mercy.

It’s creating the narrative that businesses are greedy, period, and government can’t get inflation under control if they keep being greedy.

Three more business days before grocery operators reveal their plan.

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Posted 03 October 2023 - 11:56 AM

...It’s creating the narrative that businesses are greedy, period, and government can’t get inflation under control if they keep being greedy.

Tragically, many people will believe this.



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