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#1 pontcanna

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Posted 16 February 2021 - 09:29 PM

Island gun owners, mayors react to Canada's strict new firearms laws

February 16, 2021

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The federal government is cracking down on gun possession across Canada, provoking mixed reactions:

VICTORIA -- The federal government is moving ahead with its promise to impose stricter gun laws in Canada.

Bill C-21 comes nine months after the federal government announced a ban on the use, sale and importation of more than 1,500 makes and models of assault-style weapons. Now, Ottawa is offering to buy back those guns from people who purchased them lawfully.

Included in the bill is the power for individual municipalities to ban handguns under their local bylaws. It's an idea that local mayors have mixed feelings on.
 


 


#2 UDeMan

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Posted 16 February 2021 - 10:57 PM

this will surely get all those guns out of the hands of criminals in Victoria.

 

they should extend this to replica guns too, which Victoria has a huge problem.



#3 tommy

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 12:00 AM

this will surely get all those guns out of the hands of criminals in Victoria.

 

they should extend this to replica guns too, which Victoria has a huge problem.

"If passed, the new law would also forbid the altering of the cartridge magazine component of a firearm and would ban depictions of violence in firearms advertising. There would be tighter restrictions on imports of ammunition and a ban on the import, export, sales and transfers of all replica firearms."

 

https://www.cnn.com/...-ban/index.html



#4 spanky123

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 07:07 AM

this will surely get all those guns out of the hands of criminals in Victoria.

 

they should extend this to replica guns too, which Victoria has a huge problem.

 

Smart money is in acquiring broken, obsolete and incomplete firearms in advance of the Fed buy-back program.


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#5 North Shore

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 11:25 AM

I'm pretty left/liberal in outlook, but this makes me see red!  I actually have a PAL, but don't keep firearms, as I don't really have the time/money to devote to that hobby.  However, I'm really tempted to go out and acquire a soon-to-be-iilegal firearm, and bury it in my backyard, just so I can wave a middle finger at the government!

Legal guns are very rarely a problem in Canada, and yet gun owners are being made scapegoats for all sorts of activities that they would unanimously condemn.  Does anyone honestly think that the ongoing shooting spree of people connected with the drug trade in the Lower Mainland is in any way connected with, or perpetrated by, legal gun owners?


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#6 Danma

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 11:38 AM

I feel similar to North Shore. I am not a gun guy, but I feel like all this attention to the further crackdown on legal gun owners doesn't serve to reduce actual gun crime in Canada.

 

If legally owned guns in Canada are not being used in crimes here, and legally owned guns aren't the source of guns used in organized crime in Canada, why is the federal government wasting time on hassling legally owned gun owners? Shouldn't we be putting more attention on cutting off the sources of illegal weapons and bolstering laws around illegal weapons first?

 

I'm fully in favor of reducing gun crime in this country, but this feels more like theatre than actual crime prevention.


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#7 spanky123

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 01:10 PM

I feel similar to North Shore. I am not a gun guy, but I feel like all this attention to the further crackdown on legal gun owners doesn't serve to reduce actual gun crime in Canada.

 

If legally owned guns in Canada are not being used in crimes here, and legally owned guns aren't the source of guns used in organized crime in Canada, why is the federal government wasting time on hassling legally owned gun owners? Shouldn't we be putting more attention on cutting off the sources of illegal weapons and bolstering laws around illegal weapons first?

 

I'm fully in favor of reducing gun crime in this country, but this feels more like theatre than actual crime prevention.

 

Especially at a cost of $300M. We can't get enough vaccine to vaccinate everyone nor can we take care of the homeless yet we can waste $300M solving a problem that doesn't exist. 

 

Maybe the Feds think that when they raise HST to 15% and increase income taxes by 20% to pay for their defrauded programs folks will "be up in arms"



#8 Fox

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 01:45 PM

Don't forget the actual cost of the long gun registry.  The $300M will just be the tip of the iceberg.



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Posted 17 February 2021 - 01:45 PM

I feel similar to North Shore. I am not a gun guy, but I feel like all this attention to the further crackdown on legal gun owners doesn't serve to reduce actual gun crime in Canada.

 

If legally owned guns in Canada are not being used in crimes here, and legally owned guns aren't the source of guns used in organized crime in Canada, why is the federal government wasting time on hassling legally owned gun owners? Shouldn't we be putting more attention on cutting off the sources of illegal weapons and bolstering laws around illegal weapons first?

 

I'm fully in favor of reducing gun crime in this country, but this feels more like theatre than actual crime prevention.

 

Because its low hanging fruit and easy to enforce, caters to the urban ndp voter and doesnt alienate most of their left wing urban base. 

 

Whats truly egregious is they and the NDP voted against a recent motion to toughen the penalties for people who smuggle guns into Canada

 

GUNTER: Conservatives tried to get tough on gun crime -- the Liberals and NDP blocked them | Toronto Sun



#10 Fox

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 04:40 PM

https://www.cheknews...-system-745136/

 

 

 

The Trudeau government is moving to repeal mandatory minimum penalties for drug offences and some gun-related crimes, saying they do not make Canadians safer and unfairly affect Indigenous and Black offenders.

 

So, punish law abiding citizens, but let the actual gun using criminals get off easier?  What?


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#11 aastra

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 07:04 PM

 

If legally owned guns in Canada are not being used in crimes here, and legally owned guns aren't the source of guns used in organized crime in Canada, why is the federal government wasting time on hassling legally owned gun owners?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if eventually they start going after people who have never owned firearms in their lives. One day we'll find out our non-ownership of guns wasn't sensitive enough, or our distaste for guns was based on the wrong motivations, or our intolerance for guns was unfairly guilting career criminals, etc.



#12 spanky123

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 07:48 PM

https://www.cheknews...-system-745136/

 

So, punish law abiding citizens, but let the actual gun using criminals get off easier?  What?

 

Well we all know how well the "get soft on crime" approach has worked in downtown Victoria. We have our own police chief telling people it is not safe to use parks in the city while council wants to reduce spending on safety even more.


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#13 LJ

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Posted 18 February 2021 - 08:16 PM

I'm pretty left/liberal in outlook, but this makes me see red!  I actually have a PAL, but don't keep firearms, as I don't really have the time/money to devote to that hobby.  However, I'm really tempted to go out and acquire a soon-to-be-iilegal firearm, and bury it in my backyard, just so I can wave a middle finger at the government!

Legal guns are very rarely a problem in Canada, and yet gun owners are being made scapegoats for all sorts of activities that they would unanimously condemn.  Does anyone honestly think that the ongoing shooting spree of people connected with the drug trade in the Lower Mainland is in any way connected with, or perpetrated by, legal gun owners?

Purely political theatre that will convince the uneducated masses that Trudeau was "tough on crime" when it actually did nothing.

 

Most non-gun owners have no idea of the hurdles you have to go through to go target shooting with a pistol.


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#14 North Shore

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Posted 19 February 2021 - 10:13 AM

Because its low hanging fruit and easy to enforce, caters to the urban ndp voter and doesnt alienate most of their left wing urban base. 

 

Whats truly egregious is they and the NDP voted against a recent motion to toughen the penalties for people who smuggle guns into Canada

 

GUNTER: Conservatives tried to get tough on gun crime -- the Liberals and NDP blocked them | Toronto Sun

 

Just wrote an email to my MP (May) about this article..


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