...What a ridiculous argument from a simpleton.
But that is exactly how many CoV voters think. How else to explain the current makeup of council?
Posted 17 May 2022 - 03:56 PM
...What a ridiculous argument from a simpleton.
But that is exactly how many CoV voters think. How else to explain the current makeup of council?
Posted 17 May 2022 - 04:29 PM
It’s not a done deal.
Yes, they will vote after the public hearing.
Posted 17 May 2022 - 07:42 PM
Posted 26 May 2022 - 03:07 PM
Posted 27 May 2022 - 05:00 AM
Well, the #yyj missing middle policy has just been killed. At what most see as a formality vote, @Stephen_Andrew changed his vote to stop the missing middle policy from moving forward. Single family zoning has been upheld. @Chartj88 @deardubow Geoff Young @isitt_ voted against
This is an absolute exclusionary tragedy for residents of Victoria and sets a terrible standard for the surrounding municipalities. It lets renters and those that can't afford a $1.2m+single family home know what these councilors think about you.
It says 'we would rather see a 3million$ new mansion be built than a 4plex or 6plex. Anyone who has run on 'cutting red tape' has been exposed. Anyone fighting for more housing has shown their true preference. What a waste of staff time, what a waste of hope that so many built up
We are calling on @Dave_Eby to take a stand and change zoning across our province. This is absolutely awful. @HonAhmedHussen @jjhorgan
You rely on a post that is untrue. We voted to have an another open house & consult community. Staff will present findings & I expect the public hearing. @HomesForLiving_ needs to be truthful in this divisive issue.Suggest you get facts from trusted new source #ANDREW2022
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 05:03 AM
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 05:14 AM
ATTENTION all councilors reading this:
PILOT the program in the community where the association most welcomes it. 2-3 years. See what plays out. If it's wonderful, next term you can extend it further. And when detractors in the extended communities complain, say "look at XYZ community, they have had the program for 2/3 years and [results] has happened".
I've already volunteered North Park, Fernwood, Oaklands, North Jubilee, or Gorge/Burnside. Shop it around, who really wants it?
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 May 2022 - 05:21 AM.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 05:45 AM
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 05:55 AM
Over in the LOTS FOR SALE thread, I just posted a 1.43 acre set of properties, that are zoned for density. $10.6 million.
Is that what density zoning does to land prices?
That's on the busy Island Highway in View Royal. What does 1.43 acres in Rockland go for, when it's zoned for 6-plexes?
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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 May 2022 - 05:58 AM.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 06:03 AM
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 06:06 AM
If affordable housing is the primary goal, we are approaching the issue in the absolute worst way imaginable from an affordability point of view, are we not?
Because we have bought into the idea that "Victoria needs 10,000 new housing units..." whereas places like Oak Bay make no such assumption. Victoria will not grow by 10,000 through birth rate, it'll only grow by in-migration from elsewhere - inside the Island/BC/Canada or from outside the country.
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 May 2022 - 06:07 AM.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 06:09 AM
ATTENTION all councilors reading this:
PILOT the program in the community where the association most welcomes it. 2-3 years. See what plays out. If it's wonderful, next term you can extend it further. And when detractors in the extended communities complain, say "look at XYZ community, they have had the program for 2/3 years and [results] has happened".
I've already volunteered North Park, Fernwood, Oaklands, North Jubilee, or Gorge/Burnside. Shop it around, who really wants it?
Failing my plan above, please point to the examples in among those 2,000 pages of documents that shows this similar plan elsewhere in North America where this has had the desired effect. Manhattan has lots of very high density, is that a low-housing-cost area?
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 May 2022 - 06:10 AM.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 06:15 AM
Capital Daily:
‘It may never happen’: Vote reversal could turf Victoria’s ‘missing middle’ initiative
Council votes to refer initiative back to public engagement
This, in all likelihood, is how Victoria’s “missing middle” housing initiative ends: not with a bang, but with a motion for referral.
Thursday afternoon, councillors voted 5-4 in favour of referring the proposal—which, if approved, would flip the script on density in Victoria—back to staff for further public engagement, before a report would return to the Committee of the Whole in July.
The decision, though not technically a death knell for the initiative, which is intended to create room for more diverse housing options within Victoria amid its ongoing housing crisis, all but guarantees its delay until at least after the fall municipal election—after which time a new council might opt to ditch the proposal entirely, housing advocates worry.
https://www.capitald...ddle-initiative
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 May 2022 - 06:16 AM.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 06:19 AM
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:17 AM
Helps can, and has, taken motions that she has introduced and been defeated and then put them back on the agenda a week or two later after an opponent has been strong armed into supporting it. This may be back before you know it.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:19 AM
The decision, though not technically a death knell for the initiative, which is intended to create room for more diverse housing options within Victoria amid its ongoing housing crisis, all but guarantees its delay until at least after the fall municipal election—after which time a new council might opt to ditch the proposal entirely, housing advocates worry.
Helps has a history (ie Crystal Pool) of quickly cutting loose projects and proposals that she does not see as winners. She had said previously that unless the missing middle project could be rammed through approved by the summer it was dead. If she can't re-introduce the motion quickly then she won't be pursuing it in my opinion.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:20 AM
After the past 8 years, it's pretty clear she is a bully and will do whatever it takes to get her own way.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:24 AM
Helps can, and has, taken motions that she has introduced and been defeated and then put them back on the agenda a week or two later after an opponent has been strong armed into supporting it. This may be back before you know it.
Yes, especially when we have Dubow and Isitt on the no side now.
Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:29 AM
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Posted 27 May 2022 - 07:31 AM
Yes, especially when we have Dubow and Isitt on the no side now.
I think that Dubrow and Isitt are pretty firm in their opposition. They have it right in this case, missing middle will create housing but it won't be affordable and it won't help low income earners find a place to live. It will create wealth for the people who supported the political campaigns of some of the proponents, but there are lot of unintended consequences that haven't been thought through yet,
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