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The Abbey
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 1702 Quadra Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 12
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[Downtown/North Park] 1702 Fisgard Street (The Abbey apartments) | Rentals; commercial | 12-storeys


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#41 GaryOak

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Posted 21 June 2023 - 08:35 AM

Don't really blame them. Heritage preservation is expensive, and financing has probably changed due to the interest rates. So something needed to be cut to make it viable.
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#42 Mike K.

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Posted 21 June 2023 - 10:43 AM

There is the option of asking for a little more density, which I think council would be receptive to.

The premise of the original proposal was around preserving the old building. If council lets this proposal proceed, we may see the end of heritage restoration efforts in the downtown core for anything that isn’t registered, as this would set a precedent.
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#43 aastra

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Posted 21 June 2023 - 12:29 PM

 

...we may see the end of heritage restoration efforts in the downtown core...

 

Did we ever see the beginning of heritage restoration efforts in the downtown core?



#44 Vin

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Posted 21 June 2023 - 12:37 PM

This is an absolute abomination.


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#45 DoD

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Posted 22 June 2023 - 11:12 AM

I'm so confused, why not just leave it alone?

 

 

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#46 lanforod

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 08:04 AM

If you build the same thing everywhere, its no longer interesting. 

 

Nevermind that Luke's 'human scale' definition is most definitely not the same as my human scale definition.



#47 aastra

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 11:07 AM

 

I'm so confused, why not just leave it alone?

 

In his defense, he said that old Main Street block was his favourite building in Vancouver. But apparently in Victoria the development pressures are much, much greater, so you pretty much have no choice but to tear down nice old buildings like that and build bland highrises.


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#48 baconnbits

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 11:50 AM

I saw aryze post that this is how it should be done “stunning architecture”
Looks like basically every other building?

#49 Barrrister

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 01:37 PM

Actually looks worse than a lot of buildings.  



#50 Biro

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 08:25 PM

Remember her while you can.

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#51 Nparker

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Posted 23 June 2023 - 08:28 PM

Do you think it would help if I wrote a Dear Abbey letter?



#52 Biro

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Posted 24 June 2023 - 05:25 AM

Do you think it would help if I wrote a Dear Abbey letter?



Most certainly. Seal it in a weatherproof envelope and jam it between the brick facade.

#53 Nparker

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Posted 29 June 2023 - 01:52 PM

In addition to the loss of a piece of local architectural history, Aryze's project will be eliminating several large, climate-helping trees.

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#54 Vin

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Posted 30 June 2023 - 02:08 PM

I have to agree with you on this. 

I'm so confused, why not just leave it alone?


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#55 Citified.ca

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 09:09 AM

Rezoning for Quadra Street rental tower may avoid public hearing; 12-storey proposal includes 91 homes, 4 parking stalls

https://victoria.cit...parking-stalls/


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#56 Nparker

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 09:11 AM

Aryze always gets a pass from the city, despite how out of place most of their projects are.



#57 PPPdev

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 09:21 AM

Lets ignore the fact that there are four applications all with the same recommendation to waive the Public Hearing.



#58 Mike K.

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 09:21 AM

The City is trying to avoid delays and costs associated to public hearings where the design meets the OCP/DCAP. We get bogged down so often by the minutiae, that ends up costing us so much time for approvals that are ultimately granted.


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#59 Nparker

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 09:43 AM

The design is butt-ugly. The public should have some say in that.



#60 PPPdev

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Posted 13 September 2023 - 10:27 AM

What's interesting is that design is the only aspect of a project that cannot be regulated under the Local Government Act beyond the Development Permit Guidelines. Even then, the guidelines are specifically meant to be generic in nature:

 

(8) For land within a development permit area designated under section 488 (1) (f), a development permit may include requirements respecting the character of the development, as referred to in subsection (7) of this section, but only in relation to the general character of the development and not to particulars of the landscaping or of the exterior design and finish of buildings and other structures.



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