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#41 Mike K.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:22 AM

They came here some years ago and the organization said things weren’t so bad as to warrant their involvement.

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#42 dasmo

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:34 AM

Some years ago was much different than it is now. 



#43 spanky123

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:40 AM

They came here some years ago and the organization said things weren’t so bad as to warrant their involvement.

 

Don't think that is entirely correct. They were invited here years ago to discuss what was needed to establish a chapter. There wasn't sufficient community support at the time to organize and create one.  Basically you need money and volunteers. The GA support local chapters, they don't run them.

 

The GA are great for local residents and small businesses who need security and comfort, but it also sends a broad message that the city is unsafe which tourism and hospitality participants are not happy about.


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#44 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 12:26 PM

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#45 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 02:35 PM

A man arrested in connection with an incident where a passenger pulled a knife on a bus driver is wanted in Ontario on charges including attempted murder, assault with a weapon and breaking-and-entering, Victoria police say.

 

The arrest was made after police released photos of the suspect in the Sept. 15 incident from surveillance video.

 

An officer recognized the suspect as someone who had had previous interactions with police at a park in the 1400-block of Pandora Avenue. When police identified him, they learned he was wanted in Ontario.

 

 

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Stadacona Park.


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#46 Mike K.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 04:37 PM

Don't think that is entirely correct. They were invited here years ago to discuss what was needed to establish a chapter. There wasn't sufficient community support at the time to organize and create one. Basically you need money and volunteers. The GA support local chapters, they don't run them.

The GA are great for local residents and small businesses who need security and comfort, but it also sends a broad message that the city is unsafe which tourism and hospitality participants are not happy about.


According to the TC, they said there wasn’t enough crime:

After spending the Victoria Day long weekend in this "wonderful city," the Guardian Angels decided there just wasn't enough crime in Victoria to warrant them staying.

The U.S.-based crime-watch organization considered starting a new chapter on Vancouver Island, but after spending more time playing tourists than crime-fighters, the Guardian Angels decided to leave.
"At no time did I feel unsafe in Victoria, and residents in Victoria shared the same feeling. In fact, I am told that the condition in that area is improving," wrote western director Sebastian Metz on the Vancouver Guardian Angels website.

- https://vibrantvicto...e-12#entry23652

But yes, it’s been 15-years since then. Things have changed, indeed.
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Posted 26 September 2022 - 04:09 AM

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#48 North Shore

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Posted 26 September 2022 - 12:00 PM

Should be easy. They sure enforced the honking bylaws earlier in the year. They just unleashed the jackboots. Had checkpoints going into town even. Greater good priorities I guess.... 

 

Sure, but all of those honkers had something to lose.  Take away their car, or fine them, or send them to court/jail - all have negative effects on lifestyle.  If I lived in a tent in a park, an overnight stay in a warm room with a shower and a hot meal sounds like a pretty good deal...


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#49 LJ

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Posted 26 September 2022 - 12:04 PM

Sure, but all of those honkers had something to lose.  Take away their car, or fine them, or send them to court/jail - all have negative effects on lifestyle.  If I lived in a tent in a park, an overnight stay in a warm room with a shower and a hot meal sounds like a pretty good deal...

That's just it, make it so pleasant for them to do nothing, and that is exactly what they will do.


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Posted 26 September 2022 - 04:38 PM

Sure, but all of those honkers had something to lose.  Take away their car, or fine them, or send them to court/jail - all have negative effects on lifestyle.  If I lived in a tent in a park, an overnight stay in a warm room with a shower and a hot meal sounds like a pretty good deal...

They could bring out the horses and the spray. That worked pretty good in Ottawa. Trampling old ladies in walkers and beating lawful citizens. Spraying them with pepper spray and then lying about them in the media. If there is a will there is a way. There is no will here. There is no globalist badge to be earned.  :banana:  https://vibrantvicto...e-2#entry666694


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Posted 08 October 2022 - 03:00 AM

Saying Stadacona Park has become a no-go zone for local residents and the de facto overflow camping area for Pandora Avenue, the Friends of Stadacona Park have called on the city to prohibit camping in the area.

 

“Our healthy, diverse green space the community depends on is now an unwelcoming and unsafe place avoided by the community,” said Michael Barr, spokesman for the group.

 

Barr said the group supports efforts to address the homeless problem and rejects criticism that residents are in any way anti-homeless.

 

 

 

 

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During pandemic restrictions, the city allowed all-day camping, but that was supposed to end earlier this year. The existing bylaw allows tents in public parks between 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.

 

Barr told council that sheltering in the park continues as an all-day affair.

 

“The park is no longer a safe greenspace for the residents,” he said. “We are simply asking you uphold your own City of Victoria park vision, specifically a place that supports health and wellness for all.”


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#52 Nparker

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Posted 08 October 2022 - 07:27 AM

The CoV has abandoned the majority of its citizens in its zeal to be woke. This cannot be allowed to continue. Vote wisely on October 15th
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Posted 08 October 2022 - 07:30 AM

Has there been any official City Hall statement on this?  Or anything from the current politicians?   All three of them hoping to stick around?


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#54 Nparker

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Posted 08 October 2022 - 07:50 AM

No incumbents seem to have the courage to challenge the status quo. I was truly hoping for more from one of them. Sadly, it looks like I will have to resort to my usual "least of all evils" voting strategy again. 😞
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Posted 24 October 2022 - 04:47 AM

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#56 todd

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Posted 24 October 2022 - 11:19 AM

The CoV has abandoned the majority of its citizens in its zeal to be woke. This cannot be allowed to continue. Vote wisely on October 15th

they certainly abandoned Isitt. Who knows where Helps would’ve gone

#57 Nparker

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Posted 24 October 2022 - 11:24 AM

...Who knows where Helps would’ve gone

She's exactly where she was, she just calls herself Marianne Alto now.



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Posted 24 October 2022 - 11:25 AM

She's exactly where she was, she just calls herself Marianne Alto now.



We’ll see

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Posted 24 October 2022 - 11:36 AM

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This is where it begins. You actually feel threatened by the government’s actions. You speak up. They call you a far right extremist. You think…but I’m left…. Welcome to the culture war
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Posted 24 October 2022 - 11:42 AM

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