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[Victoria Watcher]

Should B.C. cities rethink their shade priorities?

 

As temperatures climb, former chief planner warns B.C. cities need to rethink old ways of maximizing sunlight and minimizing building shadows.

 

 

 

 

 

How much shade is too much shade? 

 

In B.C.’s warming cities, it’s a question increasingly pushing city planners to rethink what building developments should get approved, and which should be reworked to avoid casting a shadow on a nearby public space. 

 

Brent Toderian, a prominent urban-planning advisor who previously served as Vancouver’s chief planner, said that for decades, cities across Canada have prioritized sunlight over almost everything else. 

 

That might have made sense a decade ago when B.C.'s coastal cities saw gloomy, wet skies as the biggest damper on public spaces. But three years after a heat wave killed 619 people across the province, expectations have changed, and Toderian says city planners have failed to respond fast enough to the threat of deadly heat.

 

“They've been choosing sunlight over shade,” he said. “It’s been treated as almost an absolute rule.”

 

“And we can't afford to keep doing that.”

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...orities-9313495

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 06 August 2024 - 06:48 AM.

[Nparker]

IF cities are warming it's likely due to increased density and larger buildings, not a spike in Gaia's average temperature.

I am really getting sick of climate hysteria lies and half-truths.

[Tony]

No hysteria in this article.

You just disagree with the comments that they make about climate warming. They just do not agree with your opinion.

If cities are warming only also because of increased density and larger buildings the ideas expressed are reasonable to me.

 

However in my opinion there is global warming that is created by the dramatic increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

[Mike K.]

It’s a safe bet at this point, that we should do the 180-degree opposite of what the experts recommend.

[Nparker]

In almost every aspect of our lives.

[Matt R.]

IF cities are warming it's likely due to increased density and larger buildings, not a spike in Gaia's average temperature.

I am really getting sick of climate hysteria lies and half-truths.

I was told the other day that pollution in lakes is worse this year because of the hot drought conditions we’ve had this summer due to climate change. When I pointed out it was a cool, wet spring and summer hasn’t even been hot, I was told that was due to climate change as well.

Did I miss the hot drought this summer?

[Mike K.]

But it’s not the high volumes of swimmers?

[Matt R.]

I think it’s mostly duck and geese poop isn’t it? Those stinky local lakes have been gross in the summer as far back as I can remember.

[Mike K.]

Duck and geese, sunscreen, garbage, etc. The busier lakes get, the more polluted they get.

[Victoria Watcher]

At least a lake like Sproat or Cowichan is large enough to dilute that stuff.

[Nparker]

I was told the other day that pollution in lakes is worse this year because of the hot drought conditions we’ve had this summer due to climate change. When I pointed out it was a cool, wet spring and summer hasn’t even been hot, I was told that was due to climate change as well....

Climate change fanatics are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots.

[Ismo07]

I think it’s mostly duck and geese poop isn’t it? Those stinky local lakes have been gross in the summer as far back as I can remember.

 

Combined with the warmer bath water...  It happens... I felt like this July was warmer throughout, no heavy heat but evenings just felt warmer.  Last night was the first evening I was at a Harbour Cat game I wished I had brought a long sleeve.  I still made it though. It's been a great summer.  Is it cause of tall buildings now?  

[Tony]

 It could be said that..............Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots.

[Mike K.]

Who does the burden of proof fall on, though? The person rejecting a theory in the absence of fact, or the person promoting the theory?

[dasmo]

It could be said that..............Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots.

Spoken like a true zealot…

Edited by dasmo, 06 August 2024 - 08:58 PM.

[Nparker]

I do not deny that Earth's climate is changing. Our climate has been in a constant state of change for more than 4.5 billion years and will continue to change until dear old Sol goes supernova, becomes a red giant or in some other manner ceases to enable life on this big blue marble we call home. 

All the carbon taxes in the Universe are not going to change this.

[Tony]

Remember the tobacco industry and cancer? There is no proof!

 

Everybody does not have to believe evidence for something  to be true.

 

There will always be many who will continue to say there is no proof or what difference can one person or a small country like Canada make. That does not mean they are correct either.

 

For me the proof is in the dramatic increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and the known effect of greenhouse gases But we have been round this circle before.

[dasmo]

False association. There was plenty of proof. It’s actually the opposite. In fact you can see the effect of smoking with your own eyes. You can feel it if you do it long enough. It was the establishment saying there is no proof. Just like the establishment is lying now.

[dasmo]

Remember the tobacco industry and cancer? There is no proof!

Everybody does not have to believe evidence for something to be true.

There will always be many who will continue to say there is no proof or what difference can one person or a small country like Canada make. That does not mean they are correct either.

For me the proof is in the dramatic increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and the known effect of greenhouse gases But we have been round this circle before.

Your proof is something you can’t observe or measure yourself?

[Ismo07]

I do not deny that Earth's climate is changing. Our climate has been in a constant state of change for more than 4.5 billion years and will continue to change until dear old Sol goes supernova, becomes a red giant or in some other manner ceases to enable life on this big blue marble we call home. 

All the carbon taxes in the Universe are not going to change this.

 

Never this quickly apparently unless you have something to offer.

 

Nice break down here..

 

CTD | Climate Change (crossing-the-divide.org)

 

Some Republicans recognize the reality of climate change but believe that environmental protection must advance hand in hand with economic prosperity.

 

Democrats believe that climate change is an ongoing issue that requires an urgent response; they believe the fate of future generations hangs in the balance and that failure to address the issue adequately could have disastrous consequences.

Edited by Ismo07, 07 August 2024 - 07:34 AM.