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[Tony]

Your proof is something you can’t observe or measure yourself?

Just because I can not observe something or measure it myself does not mean that the observations and measurements of many others are not sufficient support or proof.

 

https://www.nasa.gov...rature-records/

https://www.climate....bal-temperature

[Mike K.]

…anyway.

Now that experts are calling for shading out our communities, on purpose. That is not good urbanism, at least not as of last week it wasn’t.

Of course, the people pushing this also told you your SFD was a racist construct and MMHI would deliver deep affordability.

[Tony]

Obscuring the topic with mixing other issues and opinion subjects?

[Mike K.]

Tony, with all due respect, why are you here?

You’re not adding much to this forum. There are other places where you can invest your time. If you disagree with everyone here, on most topics, maybe this isn’t the place for you.

[Ismo07]

Obscuring the topic with mixing other issues and opinion subjects?

 

This occurs quite a bit when discussions continue...

[Ismo07]

Tony, with all due respect, why are you here?

You’re not adding much to this forum. There are other places where you can invest your time. If you disagree with everyone here, on most topics, maybe this isn’t the place for you.

 

Looks like he is having a discussion...  

[Mike K.]

The same person who pushed for MMHI in Victoria, is now pushing for more shadows as good urbanism.

So it’s relevant.

[Ismo07]

The same person who pushed for MMHI in Victoria, is now pushing for more shadows as good urbanism.

So it’s relevant.

 

Seemed he was just speaking about climate change that is happening is all and responding to a statement about him being a zealot..  Can someone not champion shadows?  May he has an aversion to the sun...

[Mike K.]

Oh? But he’ll tell an admin of this forum that he’s off topic, right?

Some people fit in to this forum. Others don’t. Such is life.

[Ismo07]

When it's a super hot day I might walk in the shade, when cooler I'll walk in the sun..  Pretty simple..  When a 23 story building goes up do they really study the shadow of the building at that point?

[dasmo]

Seemed he was just speaking about climate change that is happening is all and responding to a statement about him being a zealot.. Can someone not champion shadows? May he has an aversion to the sun...

He was calling people who disagree with corporate advertising zealots by comparing them to the people that disagreed with the corporate advertising of the Tobacco industry. So context is important when talking about zealots.

[Ismo07]

He was calling people who disagree with corporate advertising zealots by comparing them to the people that disagreed with the corporate advertising of the Tobacco industry. So context is important when talking about zealots.

 

Well I guess it went both ways..  I didn't realize you were a climate change denier...

 

It was actually before the tobacco comparison, nothing to do with you...  But then you said he sounded like a Zealot right?

 

"Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots."

Edited by Ismo07, 07 August 2024 - 08:53 AM.

[Mike K.]

When it's a super hot day I might walk in the shade, when cooler I'll walk in the sun.. Pretty simple.. When a 23 story building goes up do they really study the shadow of the building at that point?

Shadow studies are a big part of urban design.

The architects of missing middle, the theory that single family homes are racist, and anti housing choice are now promoting shadow studies as bad policy, I assume under the guise of heat effects.

But the heat effects are caused by mass density, and a lack of urban foliage/greek spaces. Not a lot of flora grows in shadow, in our climate, so it’s a double whammy.

I don’t even know how we could have reached this far and think this is policy to debate. I suppose it’s to enable widescrapers we’ve spent decades trying to undo in planning policies?

[dasmo]

"Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots."
This just captures the advertisement technique of corporate climate profiteering perfectly.

[Ismo07]

"Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots."
This just captures the advertisement technique of corporate climate profiteering perfectly.

 

But you are a denier are you?  You know climate is changing, you just don't think there is anything we can do about it.  That's been my take anyway.

 

 

I don’t even know how we could have reached this far and think this is policy to debate. I suppose it’s to enable widescrapers we’ve spent decades trying to undo in planning policies?

 

I'm not sure we are debating that really, seems more about climate again.  But that new tall building at the Hudson, what shadowing studies went into that you think?  Like they may have done one but to what end...  It's gonna cast a huge shadow..  We do get enough shade do to cloudy days...  The vitamin D is nice.

Edited by Ismo07, 07 August 2024 - 11:41 AM.

[dasmo]

The zealots are always comfortable calling people heretics. They get real joy when they can burn one or two at the stake.

[Ismo07]

The zealots are always comfortable calling people heretics. They get real joy when they can burn one or two at the stake.

 

That's a little dramatic...

[dasmo]

Almost as dramatic as "Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots."

[Ismo07]

Almost as dramatic as "Climate change deniers are fanatics and are incapable of logic and sound reasoning. They are as ridiculous as any other zealots."

 

Nah, there aren't many of those and no one is getting burnt... Being fanatical and uncompromising isn't a great way to be, but we don't burn them anymore.

Edited by Ismo07, 07 August 2024 - 12:46 PM.

[dasmo]

Then why are you all that way, when you know it’s not a great way to be?