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[lanforod]

Everyone needs to be smarter.

There is a trend towards putting American products on store shelves back upside down to “stick it to loblaws” or whatever. They don’t realize this means extra work for store staff which in turn means higher prices on everything.

One nice lady in Victoria was hit with a $1200 tariff on imported items for her store, some folks think this is part of an American tariff.

Still, I am seeing people who are genuinely surprised we can not source coffee, chocolate or orange juice in Canada.

We have a long way to go.

We could grow anything, it would just be very expensive as for many products we would need greenhouses, and a lot of them. But it can be done. Could get a small industry going faster by repurposing flower and tree cultivation greenhouses but that has an impact too. As long as these can be sourced from closer to the equator areas, it will not make economic sense, tariffs or not.

[max.bravo]

This morning, I drove past a pick up truck with a large canada flag in the bed.

What is our current thinking on these type of people? Disinformation agents and traitors, or patriotic folks that want to buy Canadian?

I’m a little confused post Covid

Edited by max.bravo, 16 March 2025 - 12:12 PM.

[Matt R.]

Loudmouths, same as before.

[LJ]

Milton Friedman on tariffs...

 

https://www.instagra...jZiM2M3MzIxNA==

[phx]

This morning, I drove past a pick up truck with a large canada flag in the bed.

What is our current thinking on these type of people? Disinformation agents and traitors, or patriotic folks that want to buy Canadian?

I’m a little confused post Covid

 

The woke virtue scorecards haven’t been updated yet.

It will likely depend on whether the driver is wearing a mask, and on the truck’s pronouns.

[Mike K.]

As long as it wasn’t a Cybertruck, a GM, a Ford or a Dodge.

[Barrister]

A typical nuclear reactor should produce enough power (8 billion MgWh) to produce around 60,000 tons of Aluminum

 

Canada exports about 3 million tons of aluminum to the US per year. So the US only need to build about 50 nuclear reactors to power the making of aluminum.

 

Most nuclear generating stations have move than one reactor. I have no idea how practical this would be in terms of costs? When I say I dont know I have no idea. 

Is electricity produced by nuclear reactors cheap?

 

How long would it take the US to slap up 25 to 50 reactors anyway?

[Victoria Watcher]

How long would it take the US to slap up 25 to 50 reactors anyway?

 

100 years.

 

There have only been 4 project starts since 1978.  And 2 of them are still incomplete.

 

I don't think you can do any large projects in the US anymore.  Look at the California rail project.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 March 2025 - 10:30 PM.

[Barrister]

If they cant fast track reactors what is the American alternative for power?

[Victoria Watcher]

If they cant fast track reactors what is the American alternative for power?

 

Gas, mostly.  

[phx]

Hmm...

3,000,000 tons/year

x 17,000 kWh/ton

/ 8,760 hours/year

/ 1,000,000 kW/reactor

= 6 reactors

Edited by phx, 17 March 2025 - 07:42 AM.

[Barrister]

phx: you might be right but can you go through the math again and why you are using the numbers you use.

 

But I might have miscalculated.  Five to ten reactors seems much more doable. 

Are these under development already?

[Barrister]

why are you divided 8760 per year? (not saying you are wrong but not following the math)?

[Barrister]

I went over the numbers again and I think you might be right that it would only require five nuclear reactors which seems a lot mor doable. So I just think we need to reshift our trade patterns and domestic production.

 

There really is no negotiation space here.

[lanforod]

Except for the fact that the US really cannot spin up even 5 reactors in 5 years. What are they gonna do in the meantime? Just pay the tariffs I guess, or do stuff like switch to plastic bottles instead of aluminum cans.

[Barrister]

Since there seems to be a number of people that are pretty smart here and better at numbers than I am. How many reactors does the US have to build to totally replace

the NET electricity imports from Canada? 

 

I assume we sell more electricity than we buy (maybe I am wrong about that)?

 

Cheers

[dasmo]

The amount of electricity the U.S. imports from Canada: In 2024, the U.S. imported approximately 27,220,531 megawatt-hours (MWh) of electricity from Canada1.

The average electricity production of a nuclear reactor: A typical nuclear reactor in the U.S. produces about 1 gigawatt (GW) of power, which translates to approximately 8,760,000 MWh per year (assuming it operates at full capacity all year round)2.

Using these figures, we can calculate the number of reactors needed:

27,220,531MWh / 8,760,000 MWh
Number of reactors = 3.11

 

So, the U.S. would need to build approximately 4 nuclear reactors (rounding up to the nearest whole number) to completely replace the net electricity imports from Canada.

Edited by dasmo, 17 March 2025 - 02:06 PM.

[lanforod]

I bet the US builds exactly zero reactors (other than any they've already started building), before Trump is out of office.

[dasmo]

You got good odds on that.

[Victoria Watcher]

 

 

 

Just like Mississippi.