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Poll: What do you think of the report $1.2 billion Dollar sewage treatment cost. (77 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you think of the report $1.2 billion Dollar sewage treatment cost.

  1. We need it and waited too long that is the cost of waiting too long! (65 votes [23.47%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.47%

  2. Local, Provincial, and Federal politicians will find a way to help cut down the price to property owners. (3 votes [1.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.08%

  3. Out of the question, too expensive for Greater Victoria. (122 votes [44.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.04%

  4. It expensive, but if we do nothing costs will only rise. (20 votes [7.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.22%

  5. We need to do it but greatly scale back the project. It has grwon out of hand. (34 votes [12.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.27%

  6. No opinion, I do not know enough about the project to say of the costs are out of line or not. (33 votes [11.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.91%

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#5361 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:35 AM

it sounds counter-intuitive but it might actually reduce coal use.

 

here's the process:

 

Making cement is an energy-intensive process. To make a tonne of cement, B.C. plants shovel about a tonne-and-a-half of Texada Island limestone and other ingredients into a long kiln, fired by about 140 kilograms of coal per tonne, until it is a semi-molten lava of 1,450 C.

 

That heat, McSweeney said, sets off the chemical reaction in which carbon is stripped out of the limestone to be emitted as carbon dioxide, and creates about 60 per cent of cement-making’s greenhouse-gas emissions.

“(Those) are process emissions,” McSweeney said. “It doesn’t matter how you process — that 60 per cent emissions will always be there.”

 

The lava cool quickly into a hardened, almost metallic material called clinker, which is ground and blended with other elements to become cement, “the glue” that (at 7-to-10 per cent of the mix) binds sand, gravel and water into the essential construction material concrete.

 

It is the 40 per cent of carbon emissions related to firing the kilns that B.C.’s cement makers want to attack with the transition program.

 

http://www.vancouver...1358/story.html

 

 

this is interesting too:

 

The tax, at $30 per tonne of carbon dioxide emissions, pushed up the cost of coal — the industry’s primary fuel for its energy-intensive process — to between $53 and $62 per tonne at B.C. cement plants after it was applied in 2008, said Michael McSweeney, president of the Canadian Cement Association.

 

Then they watched as cheaper imports from Asia and the U.S. cut into their market share, from six per cent of the market before the tax to 40 per cent now, McSweeney said.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 January 2020 - 08:36 AM.


#5362 JohnN

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 03:37 PM

When Jack Hull was manager of the CRD sewage plant, he noted that while the CRD had originally hoped to get paid by the cement plants for their burning the dried sewage sludge, when the plants looked into it more, they were hesitant because of concern about supply issues. While the sludge keeps coming 24/7, getting it to the cement plants in a steady deliver seemed to be a problem. I guess with today's contract proposal, the CRD is working its way to figuring that out.

 

Might be awhile before we find out how much the cement plants are going to charge to take the sludge, as well as what the truck hauling is going to cost. Just seems weird to be producing Class A biosolids that are going to be incinerated anyway but that might be because CRD knows province really wants that sewage sludge to be absolutely ready to be spread anywhere, with some expectation thats whats going to happen in the end anyway. 

References: CRD plans to ship tons of sewage biosolids to mainland: https://www.timescol...O7xmAoIPPKq9VKs

 

CRD REI, Dried Biosolids Hauling Serviceshttps://www.crd.bc.c...auling-services


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#5363 Nparker

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 04:07 PM

 

...Might be awhile before we find out how much the cement plants are going to charge to take the sludge...

Nice that we have to pay someone to take our ****. :whyme:



#5364 Mike K.

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 05:02 PM

Isn’t that the thing, eh? First it was to be sold. Now they don’t know who they can pay to take it.

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#5365 Kungsberg

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 01:17 PM

It was a bit of non-event to see the progress down at Clover Point last week, as it's mostly getting covered over now and back to its bunker-like look.  Just a few big pipes that are exposed awaiting connection.

I'm not sure if some of these renderings have been posted here before...

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#5366 Kungsberg

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 01:18 PM

Restoration on top of the dug-up sewage line trench is going ahead. They've paved almost the whole section between Clover Point and Mile Zero now, and the next section to Holland Point is getting ready for it with compacted gravel. I believe those are Garry Oaks that they've planted.

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#5367 satellite

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 01:59 PM

Does anyone know what the difference is between the Clover Point outfall and the one they strung out from Victoria harbour last summer?



#5368 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 02:05 PM

well the clover point outfall will only be used now in the case of overloads or main plant shutdown. they only strang one pipe from clover point to the new plant. No return pipe. the new outfall only takes newly treated quite clean water.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 January 2020 - 02:07 PM.


#5369 Citified.ca

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Posted 06 March 2020 - 11:23 AM

This project is part of the $17 million pledged by Esquimalt by the CRD in exchange for situating the sewage treatment plant at McLoughlin Point.

 

Japanese-styled community building coming to Esquimalt Gorge Park

https://victoria.cit...alt-gorge-park/


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#5370 laconic

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Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:24 AM

The taller of the two construction cranes is being dismantled this morning.



#5371 JohnN

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 08:23 AM

CRD now looking for a technical advisor for its renewable gas initiative: https://www.crd.bc.c...-gas-initiative

Here is a screen grab of graphic in its Call for Credentials:

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#5372 Mike K.

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 07:22 PM

Biofuel!!

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#5373 todd

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 08:19 PM

CORE AREA WASTEWATER DISCHARGE NOTICE CLOVER POINT:

https://www.crd.bc.c...ce-clover-point

#5374 todd

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 08:27 PM

^Unplanned last night out the short outfall. Regretting my late night dip.

Edited by todd, 30 May 2020 - 08:29 PM.


#5375 Mike K.

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 11:08 AM

🔺CRD advises of planned sewage discharge; coastal areas in Victoria and Esquimalt will be affected🔺

Construction at the Macaulay Point Pump Station requires screened wastewater to be discharged out the short outfall overnight on June 22, 2020.

The shorelines that will be affected are:

🔹Between Fraser Street and Victoria View Road including Saxe Point
🔹Macaulay Point and McLoughlin Point in Esquimalt
🔹Along Dallas Road between Dock Street and Government Street in Victoria.

As a result of this discharge, residents are advised to avoid entering the waters along the affected shorelines, as the wastewater may pose a health risk.

As a precaution and in consultation with Island Health and the local municipalities, beaches within the affected areas will be posted with public health advisory signs until sample results indicate enterococci levels are below the 70CFU/100mL recreational limit.

A new Macaulay Point Pump Station is being built as part of the Wastewater Treatment Project and will pump wastewater from the western core area municipalities and the Esquimalt and Songhees Nations to the new McLoughlin Point Wastewater Treatment Plant for tertiary treatment.

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#5376 laconic

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 09:53 AM

The remaining crane is being dismantled today.

 

 


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#5377 Kungsberg

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Posted 13 July 2020 - 02:01 PM

The small public washroom building at Clover Point is taking shape and was getting its roof on today. 

 

Apparently they are on track to finish most of the public space at Clover Point by end of August.

 

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#5378 JohnN

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 05:07 PM

Looks like CRD wants some fairy godmother to come up with a "beneficial use" idea that will not involve spreading the sludge on the landscape (aside from a periodical interlude piling it into Hartland landfill):   https://www.crd.bc.c...d-pilot-program


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Posted 24 July 2020 - 07:08 PM

Citizens of Victoria, Oak Bay, Saanich...Flush often...Esquimalt and Desjardins needs your water!



#5380 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 04:25 PM

A $775-million Greater Victoria wastewater treatment project in the works for more than a decade is less than six months from completion.

Testing has already begun on the Capital Regional District’s new wastewater treatment project and infrastructure is on track to meet the provincial and federal deadlines to have the system operating by the last day of 2020, said CRD board chair Colin Plant.

 

 

 

 

https://www.vicnews....rom-completion/



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