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#18441 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:15 PM

...Adam Stirling also played a recording from March where Helps was saying, we're waiting for a directive from B.C. Housing so we can requisition Beacon Hill Park. I really would like to know if the city got such a directive.

Does it matter if the CoV actually received such a directive? Helps will say her hands were tied regardless.



#18442 spanky123

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:16 PM

I wish Helps would stop using Dr. Henry as an excuse for everything.

https://lisahelpsvictoria.ca/


Dr Henry has on several occasions said that her office has had no communications with the Mayor yet Helps continues to imply that the mess is a result of Dr. Henry’s instructions. In order to protect her own reputation Henry’s office needs to send the Mayor a cease and desist letter and then enforce it.
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#18443 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:18 PM

I suspect Dr. Henry has far bigger concerns than dealing with someone as insignificant as Lisa Helps.



#18444 mbjj

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:19 PM

Here's the first video the guy made. On the radio he said he used to be a Sheriff in Alberta

 

https://www.facebook...2742435612/?d=n


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#18445 mbjj

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:19 PM

Does it matter if the CoV actually received such a directive? Helps will say her hands were tied regardless.

I just want to know so I can accurately say she's a liar, lol.



#18446 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:21 PM

I just want to know so I can accurately say she's a liar...

I think that's a pretty safe statement to make regardless.


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#18447 A Girl is No one

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:56 PM

I think that's a pretty safe statement to make regardless.

At some point this spring she also said something to the likes of « no mayor wants a tent city »... this aftwr advertising publicly that Victoria would get three tent cities (at the time, planned for BHP, Topaz and the RAP) thus triggering the migration. Groups like Hero Work started collecting tents to hand out etc. She created the tent city problem at the court house in 2016 and she tripled down in 2020 by creating three official ones. As a bonus, she also indirectly created the overflow tent cities we see everywhere including centennial plaza.
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#18448 A Girl is No one

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 02:59 PM

Here's the first video the guy made. On the radio he said he used to be a Sheriff in Alberta

https://www.facebook...2742435612/?d=n

Love this guy. 🤗
It’s very hard to try and take action as the mob jumps for the jugular if anyone who dares speak up. I’ve been there myself. Well done and thank you!!!

#18449 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2020 - 03:13 PM

The "no mayor wants a tent city" line may be Lisa Helps' most obvious falsehood since her communications regarding the Elsner debacle.

 

Perhaps Her Worseship meant to say "no OTHER mayor wants a tent city". This was basically true until Maja Tait took up the mayoral challenge.


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#18450 mbjj

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 07:35 AM

My friend was over by the Canadian Tire on Hillside when she encountered a city worker loading up tents a couple of months ago. The worker was not amused.

 

So in light of the glowing reports from Potts about Eugene, Oregon, I looked it up last night. They have the highest per capita number of homeless in the US. On Reddit someone asked, why are there so many homeless in Eugene? Someone gave a great ,pretty impartial answer. You would have thought they were describing Victoria. I'll have to see if I can find it again, but along the lines of "loads of services, climate, tolerant attitude to panhandling, etc". A whole list of things. I guess this is our future, or the future is already here.



#18451 mbjj

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 07:43 AM

Here it is:

 

https://www.reddit.c...less_in_eugene/



#18452 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 09:40 AM

I can understand (although don't agree) with the policy not requiring people to remove their tents on a day to day basis, but what I can't understand is the lack of rules and regulations in place to prevent crime and ensure safety in park environments.  Where is the rule protecting areas near children's play areas?  Where is the rule about behaviour (not threatening park users, public drunkeness, or public drug use)?  Where is the rule about the cleanliness of one's "camp site" and not littering in the park?  Where is the rule around quiet hours in the park?  Why is it just a free for all without any constraints on use of the park to prevent abuse?


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#18453 Nparker

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 09:58 AM

...Why is it just a free for all without any constraints on use of the park to prevent abuse?

 

#mostvulnerable

#differentrules

#taxpayersaresuckers

#bringiton


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#18454 rmpeers

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 11:56 AM

I can understand (although don't agree) with the policy not requiring people to remove their tents on a day to day basis, but what I can't understand is the lack of rules and regulations in place to prevent crime and ensure safety in park environments. Where is the rule protecting areas near children's play areas? Where is the rule about behaviour (not threatening park users, public drunkeness, or public drug use)? Where is the rule about the cleanliness of one's "camp site" and not littering in the park? Where is the rule around quiet hours in the park? Why is it just a free for all without any constraints on use of the park to prevent abuse?


True, if it felt like they had any interest in curbing the criminality aspect, then there could at least be a shred of legitimacy to the covid excuse.
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#18455 Mike K.

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:09 PM

Mayor Helps and council are asking Ottawa to fund more hotel purchases for homeless persons.

It would appear as though the province has closed its purse and now the City is stuck with Beacon Hill?

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#18456 aastra

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:46 PM

Good gravy.

 

Hey, how's it going with the fight against homelessness?

 

Well, the government has been busy acquiring lots of private property.

 

Okay... but how's it going with the fight against homelessness?

 

Well, the government has almost completely subverted the premise that Beacon Hill Park is a public park.

 

Right... but how's it going with the fight against homelessness?

 

Well, the government is working on ways to acquire more private property.

 

Gotcha... but how's it going with the fight against homelessness?

 

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The main takeaway seems to be, the government is really keen on acquiring lots of private property, even though doing so hasn't helped in the fight against homelessness even one little bit.


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#18457 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:49 PM

and of course for every hotel room we lose we take away some amount of yearly tourists.

#18458 Mike K.

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:50 PM

Don’t worry. We passed legislation to permit AirBnB!

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#18459 aastra

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 05:00 PM

 

and of course for every hotel room we lose we take away some amount of yearly tourists.

 

On the plus side, we'll never hear another complaint again about supposed "overtourism." Right?

 

Right?



#18460 Nparker

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 05:29 PM

Mayor Helps and council are asking Ottawa to fund more hotel purchases for homeless persons. It would appear as though the province has closed its purse and now the City is stuck with Beacon Hill?

#bringitongonewrong


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