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[baconnbits]

Robert Bosa is the founder of bosa properties. colin is robert's son and is now the head of the company

Robert's brother Nat, owns bosa developments which is the company that builds in california as well as a bit in vancouver, but their focus is california.

they are completely seperate companies. the only relationship is that the founders are brothers. they don't do developments together and don't have any investment/cross ownership in one another.

[Mike K.]

So which company built The Manhattan?

The use of the Bosa name for both companies is silly, btw.

[baconnbits]

Bosa properties built the manhattan.

definitely a bit confusing!

[concorde]

Robert Bosa is the founder of bosa properties. colin is robert's son and is now the head of the company

Robert's brother Nat, owns bosa developments which is the company that builds in california as well as a bit in vancouver, but their focus is california.

they are completely seperate companies. the only relationship is that the founders are brothers. they don't do developments together and don't have any investment/cross ownership in one another.

Don't forget Embassay Developments owned by Ryan Bosa which if I remember correctly is Robert's son

[aastra]

So the whole thing is called Bayview Place now?
http://focusequities.../bayview-place/

Image:
http://focusequities...ace_render3.jpg

[UrbanRail]

I just hope that this new development doesnt screw any chance of preserving the rail corridor. I was assured by the City that the corridor is protected. But by looking at the renderings, all I see is either a bike path or a road and no rail.

[aastra]

It looks likes the tracks will terminate at the roundhouse.

[jklymak]

^? Isn't the grey thing the railroad track?

http://focusequities...vp_siteplan.jpg

[aastra]

You know, it's difficult to tell. There's a car on it at the right side of this image:
http://focusequities...ace_render3.jpg

Is it just me or is there also something like a tram stop/large covered bus stop along that route?

I suppose a new road could make some sense over by the roundhouse, but it would sure make for an awkward junction at Esquimalt Road.

But a new road makes no sense if it parallels the existing road below the Bayview property.

But one could argue that it also doesn't make much sense to build a retirement residence right beside train tracks.

[jklymak]

^ yeah, I saw that car - I'm guessing its just a mistake.

[Sparky]

But one could argue that it also doesn't make much sense to build a retirement residence right beside train tracks.

Why?

[aastra]

I have to substantiate that? Really? Okay, I'll do it in the form of a short radio play:

Abe: I am very well pleased with this spiffing retirement residence, into which I have just now moved.

(sound of train going by)

Abe: What the...?!? That sounded like a train going by, right outside my window. (thinks for a moment) But surely that isn't possible. Surely it would be regarded as unlawful and immoral in this jurisdiction to allow a train to run in close proximity to such a spiffing retirement residence? Especially since this particular spiffing retirement residence is one into which I have just now moved?

Jasper: A cup of coffee at the marina will take your mind off that.


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I just hope they aren't thinking of facing that retirement residence building away from the tracks.

[D.L.]

aastra, where would the train be going?

[Sparky]

^^ Dylan touched on my line of thinking, that this project will be built at the end of the line (as opposed to the train going across the bridge) so in my mind the train coming and going would be but an interesting distraction. I get your point though, thank you.

Noise and discomfort though are at times in the eye of the beholder. I will give you another radio show that you might not have thought about.

Bert: Hey Ernie, I hear you bought a new retirement home on the golf course...that must be fantastic?

Ernie: No, it's not. I am selling it.

Bert: Why? It sounds perfect....and you love golf.

Ernie: Golf I love, the golf course....not so much. Lawn mowers going at 6:00 AM, swearing all day, and sprinklers going all night.

Bert: What's with the hard hat?

[Mike K.]

You can see what appears to be a train engine on the first page of the PDF. It's right below where it says "Roundhouse Retail Precinct."

[Bingo]

What's the fuss? It's not going to be a steam driven freight train. At most it will be the return of the Budd cars and perhaps electric driven cars somewhere in the future.

It will be a huge mistake to give up the rail right-of way through the area, and the bigger mistake to not provide for rail over the new bridge to connect with any LRT that is coming into town from the north. The route through Esquimalt could be part of an LRT "loop".

I would hope the developers in the Songhees would be on board to see the rail corridor preserved.

[Mike K.]

If they are required to preserve the rail, they will. There's no indication whatsoever that rail won't be preserved but it's usefulness through the entire property is at the mercy of City Hall and what happens with the crossing into downtown. We can't fault the developer for accommodating terminus facilities on his property if that's where the train will terminate.

[aastra]

...where would the train be going?

For an answer to that you'd need to ask the folks who prepared those images. Although methinks it's possible that they don't even know at this point. We're just reviewing their images and wondering if the grey route represents a road or a cycling path or train tracks or some combination thereof.

What's the fuss? It's not going to be a steam driven freight train.

No kidding. But the actual disturbance that the controversial item produces never seems to have much relevance re: the scale of the controversy.

We can't fault the developer for accommodating terminus facilities on his property if that's where the train will terminate.

Correct. If the tracks get cut then the roundhouse is the logical place to terminate the line. But nobody ever blames the city for the city's decisions. It's always some evil developer's fault.

[Mike K.]

I had a chance to check out a high resolution poster image at the of the train tracks/road in question at the sales centre (I couldn't ask any questions as the centre was closed until noon), and what I saw were two sets of tracks running across the property much like is the situation today (there are two sets of tracks along Kimta, although only one was use by the E&N train). It also looked like an additional set of tracks will veer from the main track and run along Esquimalt Road to what could be a maintenance or loading zone.

[jpmandy]

I've noticed some work going on at the roundhouse. Anyone know if this is the beginning of construction?