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[Caramia]

I care!

[gumgum]

Yeah. My salads and Italian dishes would suffer severely without little old Olive.

[gumgum]

OK so this technology could be too good to be true, but I am so close to writing a cheque if only just to see if it works! Call me naive, but if this ain't BS, then we are on our way for a crazy ride for the next decade!

Why haven't we heard of this before? Well the company claims that their technology has been suppressed time and time again by big energy corps and government. With their wallets stuffed with trillions, I think these big energy corporations are capable of almost anything.

Check out their website. It's lacking in information and goes into little details of how it works. For obvious reasons, yes, but it's still frustration not knowing the basic principles other than it's got something to do with magnets and coils. But check out the first video a little bit down the page.

Here's a demonstration of it working.

I have to admit that I am forcing myself to leave my skepticism at the door with this one. But with the little research that I have done, I have yet to find one article, blog post or forum labeling this as a scam. Mind you, I have found little independent sites promoting it.

[Holden West]

All perpetual motion machines, including the new faddish magnetic ones are scams. If they did work, "big energy" would be all over it.

[eseedhouse]

All perpetual motion machines, including the new faddish magnetic ones are scams. If they did work, "big energy" would be all over it.

As you say, if it claims free energy it's a scam, period. The science around this was clear and finalized back in the 19th century, and has not changed.

Well, if it comes down to Newton, Kelvin, Maxwell, Einstein etc. on the one side, and some huckster who wants my money on the other side, I know who I'm going with.

[Baro]

Also if you actually really dig into the people and 'science' behind most of these amazing power technologies you'll always hit some sort of cult or new-age crap.

[Ms. B. Havin]

One of my nephews is a theoretical nuclear physicist whose specialty is high temperature superconductivity, and I'm afraid he'd agree with the skeptics that this "new" idea is bunk. Too bad.

[Holden West]

The biggest giveaway that it's a scam is that they are selling plans. Hey, if it actually works, why not just build the damn devices and sell those? Oh, because then they'd actually have to work. Actually, the biggest giveaway is that the "scientists" that wrote that website have Grade Five spelling and grammar skills.

Actually, I have a free energy plan. You come down to my house and wash my dishes, scrub the toilet and vacuum. That saves me a lot of energy.

[victorian fan]

Cold Fusion

[gumgum]

Bah you're all probably right of course.
There is mention on the site of a small company building them and selling them in Arkansas. A quick google reveals nothing.

I think I need a cold shower and a slap in the face a couple of times and I will start again tomorrow.

[eseedhouse]

Cold Fusion

First, there is as yet no evidence that it even exists. Second, even if it does it is most certainly not "free".

[Holden West]

I will start again tomorrow.

Seriously, don't bother. The "free energy blueprints" is an ancient scam that predates the Internet when they were sold from little ads in the back of cheesy pop science magazines.

[gumgum]

By starting again, I meant forgetting about it.

[Holden West]

And here's the proof:

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They make their money by selling contact information of gullible prospects and by pyramid-type sales to other scammers.

[gumgum]

Good point, West.

I wanna perpetual motion machine! Waah!

[davek]

As you say, if it claims free energy it's a scam, period. The science around this was clear and finalized back in the 19th century, and has not changed.

Well, if it comes down to Newton, Kelvin, Maxwell, Einstein etc. on the one side, and some huckster who wants my money on the other side, I know who I'm going with.

I agree with eseedhouse. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Gumgum, how would you feel about a http://www.treehugge...dy-by-2013.php'>portable backyard nuclear reactor?

[Holden West]

Gumgum, how would you feel about a portable backyard nuclear reactor?

Eh, it's been done already. By a Boy Scout no less!

In addition to showing “scout spirit,” Eagle Scouts must earn twenty-one merit badges. Eleven are mandatory, such as First Aid and Citizenship in the Community. The final ten are optional; scouts can choose from dozens of choices ranging from American Business to Woodwork. David elected to earn a merit badge in Atomic Energy.

As she huddled with a group of nervous neighbors, though, Pease heard one resident claim to have awoken late one night to see the potting shed emitting an eerie glow. “I was pretty disturbed,” Pease recalls. “I went inside and called my husband. I said, `Da-a-ve, there are men in funny suits walking around out here. You’ve got to do something.’” What the men in the funny suits found was that the potting shed was dangerously irradiated and that the area’s 40,000 residents could be at risk. Publicly, the men in white promised the residents of Golf Manor that they had nothing to fear, and to this day neither Pease nor any of the dozen or so people I interviewed knows the real reason that the Environmental Protection Agency briefly invaded their neighborhood. When asked, most mumble something about a chemical spill. The truth is far more bizarre: the Golf Manor Superfund cleanup was provoked by the boy next door, David Hahn, who attempted to build a nuclear breeder reactor in his mother’s potting shed as part of a Boy Scout merit-badge project.

[Bob Fugger]

Eh, it's been done already. By a Boy Scout no less!

And that little boy grew up to be the President & CEO of BC Ferries.

David Hahn - a lifetime of great judgment.

[LJ]

Here is a collection of three videos that speak to climate change and alternative energy.
Very interesting.

http://anhonestclima...sor-ian-plimer/

[gumgum]

Prospects for solar: "It's like watching the Internet mature in 1995"