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Hudson Walk Two
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 755 Caledonia Ave
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 15
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[Downtown Victoria] Hudson Walk | Rentals; commercial | Phase 1: 16-storeys | Built - completed in 2016 | Phase 2: 15-storeys | Built - completed in 2017

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#721 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:10 PM

There are rules and regulations that can be decided on and enforced. It won't just be a free-for-all. And breweries aren't emitting smells 24 hours a day, 365 days a week.

 

Besides, there's currently nothing stopping from a restaurant locating right next door and making all sorts of smells. At least with a tenant on the property the residents have a lot of control over their operating habits.


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#722 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:14 PM

Besides, there's currently nothing stopping from a restaurant locating right next door and making all sorts of smells. At least with a tenant on the property the residents have a lot of control over their operating habits.

 

Presumably with it right on site, the owners can just end the application right now, it's their building, not Townline's.


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#723 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:26 PM

But Townline controls the commercial, not the residents. It's like cell towers atop residential buildings.

 

And the brewery could be located anywhere, not necessarily in The Hudson.


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#724 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:36 PM

But Townline controls the commercial, not the residents. It's like cell towers atop residential buildings.

 

And the brewery could be located anywhere, not necessarily in The Hudson.

 

Let me spell it out.  You own a building in common with a commercial tenant/owner.   In no way does he control zoning of the entire property.  The property only has one zoning, there is not one for the commercial and one for the residential.  So you can't just say Townline can do what it wants, especially a re-zoning.


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#725 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:38 PM

And the brewery could be located anywhere, not necessarily in The Hudson.

 

Hmmmmm..... I did not notice that before.

 

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#726 smartstart

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:38 PM

I'm pretty sure that the Hudson is registered as an Air Space Parcel which means that the residential portion of the building is a separate legal entity than the retail part which is owned by Townline.  



#727 smartstart

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:41 PM

They are seeking the amendments on Hudson Walk phase 2 as well, the City also sent a notice out for 755 Caledonia.



#728 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:41 PM

I'm pretty sure that the Hudson is registered as an Air Space Parcel which means that the residential portion of the building is a separate legal entity than the retail part which is owned by Townline.  

 

Legal entity maybe, but now it looks like the zoning is for the whole city block.  I dunno....


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#729 smartstart

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:48 PM

Legal entity maybe, but now it looks like the zoning is for the whole city block.  I dunno....

Air Space Parcel according to BC Land Title Act http://www.bclaws.ca...ct/96250_09.xml.   It's a separate parcel, just like two lots siting somewhere side by side with the same zoning classification.   They likely share common building systems and/or insurance with agreements but they are separate, or at least that's how I interpret it.



#730 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:51 PM

Air Space Parcel according to BC Land Title Act http://www.bclaws.ca...ct/96250_09.xml.   It's a separate parcel, just like two lots siting somewhere side by side with the same zoning classification.   They likely share common building systems and/or insurance with agreements but they are separate, or at least that's how I interpret it.

 

OK, that makes sense.  It's over my head I guess.


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#731 smartstart

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:55 PM

I guess they can't serve beer samples at the Community Meeting? :wave:



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Posted 24 August 2015 - 07:08 PM

So you bought in a building that had on-site pulled pork being cooked all day and it bothers you that it's now going to smell like beer?

 

I know of no such demographic where one of those smells is enjoyed and the other is considered repulsive.

He bought there because the pulled pork being cooked kept the Muslims out of the building, now it could go to heck.


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:58 AM

if they're thinking of a brewpub isn't the old smoken bones location the obvious place for one? it's still vacant & definitely big enough. looks like someone's already thought of that
 

Kelly said the Hudson district has brought renewed interest and activity to what had been a fringe area of the downtown between Fisgard Street and Caledonia Avenue. “Undeniably, the Hudson has provided stabilization and it is going to be a strong hub along with [office development] 1515 Douglas and Hudson Walk,” he said. “So it means both night time and day time demand for a brewpub.”

Where a brewer might set up shop within one of the developments in the district, however, is still up for debate.

Colbeck said it’s too early to tell. However, he did note there has been an offer from a potential tenant for the 4,900 square feet of space in the Hudson that used to house Smoken Bones. The BBQ restaurant closed in 2014 after two years.

Colbeck said he couldn’t name the tenant nor could he confirm if it was a brewer.

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#734 pontcanna

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 11:35 AM

Never mind, T-C article already referenced. Carry on :)


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#735 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 12:28 PM

if they're thinking of a brewpub isn't the old smoken bones location the obvious place for one? it's still vacant & definitely big enough. looks like someone's already thought of that
 
http://www.timescolo...trict-1.2039583

 

I suspect they are not going through this unless they have a proponent in place.


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#736 Mike K.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 01:25 PM

Well, not necessarily. Roundhouse did the same thing. It's good to have all bases covered while you're building out the rest of your development site. That area will be a ground zero for all sorts of commercial activities and Townline doesn't want to miss a step.


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Posted 13 September 2015 - 08:31 AM

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